DAC question - is music streamer DAC better than mcintosh DA2?


I am planning to buy a MA12000 or MA9500 or MA8950, all of which have the new DAC (DA2) along with a music streamer. While I perusing the posts here, I see that several of you have suggested not to rely on the mcintosh's DA2 and instead, rely only on the music streamer's DAC. If that is true indeed, then what is the point of spending thousands of $$$$$ on a mcintosh? wouldn't a more reasonable (price-wise) manufacturer suffice? 

What are the other considerations for me to understand? Thank you :)

nathandfwacoustics

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The DA2 card sounds really good for a built in DAC.   My Dad has a MA8950 and it sounds great.   Avoid Eversolo streamers as they do not recognize some DACs via USB, the DA2 is one of them.  

Those big McIntosh integrated amps are excellent.  By big I mean the ones with autoformers.  Can drive 4 Ohm speakers all day long and barely get warm 

Not many products you buy today are built as good as those amps.   75 years building them says a lot.  

Integrated Amps with built in DACs get a bad rap.  My Cyrus i7XR integrated has the same chip set as the DA2 and sounds phenomenal.   I was going to use my RME DAC with the Cyrus but I ended up selling it because the amp sounds so good using it's DAC.  

The McIntosh removable DAC card helps avoid obsolescence and sounds damn good.   

The MA252 is a nice little amp, i like it.   I do not think it's even close to the larger amps with Autoformers though.   They have 8,4,and 2 Ohm taps.  They won't break a sweat with difficult loads 

No experience with the 352 other than seeing it in person.   I have listened to the 252 a few times.  

When spending considerable cash on toys like those it’s best to see them and hear them in person 

I know it's hard to imagine a built in DAC sounding so good you'd spend thousands to better it , but it sounds that good.