Contact Enhancer Q45T

I really do want Rick to succeed and this product to be awesome but it is very expensive as far as contact enhancers go. The reviews have mostly been raves.

The Mad Scientist stuff is 9x cheaper though.

I just spent 4 hours cleaning contact enhancers off cables and gear. I would not suggest using it unless you enjoy gumming up your outlet's connectors and cable ends.

Tweak1 I agree completely especially in the hole where the ic and pc will be connected.

I have found my leftover tube of the raved Total contact has also gummed and hardened to a hard plastic like substance amd no longer spreads or coat.

This is very disconcerting  

@agisthos , this is no audiophile engineering debate. It is not even the Muppets.

The path to an excellent system lies elsewhere, simple fact. This is all wishful thinking by people with a poor science background. 

Save your money for better equipment. Don't piss it away on sh-t like this. 

And agisthos, it would do you good to read up on psychoacoustics. You might learn something useful.

johnk

What contact enhancers did you you use?

justubes Total contact if i remember right was supposed to be refrigerated and did have a shelf life. My  year old Q45t is still fluid in the jar.  

I don't use them the science doesn't support the use and if I really need a contact enhancer I would use a silver bearing dielectric grease

. But I have cleaned up many cables and repaired gear damaged by the use of contact enhancers. And if it needs refrigeration and has a shelf life how would that work in the real world? I think you all are nuts but that's this hobby for you. 

Hey guys, I'm thinking about ordering one, but tell me this - doesn't it sound to you (actual users, not theorists :) that it boost higher frequencies like other known enhancers?

Thanks

@mxpwladimir 

I had a sample but lost it after treating a coax cable

Mad Scientist Audio has a similar product (looks the same, applies the same...) for a lot less money

I did not notice an increase in HF, BUT,  my tweeters are 1" polyester

It takes a couple days to fully integrate

hth

Thx Tweak. 
And have you compared both yourself? Cause I have MSA Graphene myself and from my experience (apart from good thing that it does), it tends to filter out some of the bass frequencies and also a little bit emphasize region around 4-7kHz (roughly). My solution for this is to apply a thin coating of Vortex Hifi, which balances this out, BUT I don't wanna be a slave to my system and cleaning / reapplying all of this on all my contacts every year until end of times.. 

@mxpwladimir

Hmmmm, how can they possibly be compared, do they all contain the same percentage of graphene by volume? It will separate, so how well do we shake it up to assure complete homogenization ..? The graphene enhancers consist of NANOparticles. Maybe that could be removed. You can wipe it off, but I doubt 100% as the metal itself is porous, and it is going to penetrate into it. Maybe, possibly the sellers are buying raw graphene and using different carriers (squalene, cod liver oil...) maybe organic, maybe not.

hth

hth

Yeah thanks Tweak1, but I meant comparing practically, how they affect the sound, not theoretically :) 

@mxpwladimir 

Sorry, Im at a loss to understand what you're asking

@mxpwladimir OP here. I did compare side by side Mad Science liquid enhancer with the Q45T and 1260 and shared somewhere here onAgon last year. 
Please LMK if still need help locating that post, I will find it and PM you. Best

@nasaman thanks for your reply, yes I saw your post before and re-read it again now. 

May I ask you, what was your application procedure with the MS-GCE? Because your conclusion is quite weird compared to my own experience, so I assume the application method could have differed and thus the different results.

And when you're at it, would you please shortly describe, how did you apply Q45T as well? I'm probably going to try it as well.

Many thanks 👍