Coincident Statement Line Stage vs Jadis JP80MC vs EAR 868PL vs Aesthetic Janus


I had another thread asking about different preamps. I then bought Coincident Statement Line Stage and ModWright LS100. Both of them are very good in its own right. The CSLS is very transparent and engaging. The Modwright has very good tone. After debating for a long time, I finally sold the Modwright. But that tone can’t leave my head. While the CSLS sounds excellent in my system right now, I always wonder if there is one preamp in the world that has quality of both CSLS and Modwright LS100, and that would be prefect.

After I sold the Modwright, I upgraded to better cables and power cords. I also upgraded to the Psvane WE101D, but unfortunately, one of the tube turns white in less than a month, and I am in the process of getting warranty replacement. I also upgraded to APL DAC. I feel I maximized what I can do trying to get the tone, but it is still not quite there yet, but very close to what I want. Therefore, I am trying to see what other options I have. Another challenge is that I listen to vinyl 20% of the time, and I feel my current MC phono preamp doesn’t match with the CSLS. So, instead of trying another phono preamp, I am wondering if I will get better synergy to find a preamp that also have a good MC phono built in. But I am opened to suggestion that doesn’t have phono.

I am interested in the following:

1) EAR Yoshino 868PL

2) Aesthetix Janus

3) Jadis JP80MC

Does any of these has the same level of transparency and as engaging as the CSLS, and on top of that, have the tonal density of Modwright Ls100?

 

thanks in advance.

 

 

gte357s

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Sorry I missed the part about built in phono pre. Forget about it, you've got a supreme linestage, you'll be going backwards!

I have Statement upgraded to MkII and optional Amtrans rotary selector. I don't know if you have MkII upgrade but the better quality volume transformers,  NIchicon FG and muse caps add a bit more musical tone, Amtrans gives more precise imaging, sound staging. I also diy change to Takman carbon film resistors and Audio Note Seiryu capacitors in signal path recently, another slight uptick in more natural timbre. Finally, try the Linlai Elite solid plate 101, while I like the WE101, the Elite has a bit more natural timbre, resolving powers and transparency. I too had a WE go bad some months ago, same issue, this condition caused by leak, vacuum lost. In may case I felt slight movement where base meets glass, leak from here?

So, at this point, already excellent piece only made better. If it were me, I'd get the Coincident phono stage, but I hear you on the expenditure for that amount of listening. Actually, I'm in exact same boat as you, perhaps 10% phono, rest streaming. I too am looking to upgrade my phono setup, including cartridge and perhaps phono stage after. I'm using Modwright SWP 9.0SE at present, planning on modding with VH Audio ODAM capacitors. Whether this will be sufficient or not? Assuming it wasn't I'd seriously consider the Coincident phono, I'd think this would be best match since I do like Coincident house sound (also have Coincident 845SET). All the other phono stages I'd consider upgrade to Modwright will be similar price range to Coincident.

Seems to me Coincident not your issue in the least. You like your digital, analog your problem. While I've not heard Alnic, presume it on warmer, lower resolving side. 

 

BTW I have Modwright swp 9.0se, the ph9 is updated swp with separate power supply. My analog setup isn't up to digital in resolution, transparency. Running Techincs Sp10Mk II completely refurbished in custom plinth, Jelco TK850L with Denon 103R.

 

Don't know your cartridge, but I saw one review claiming it crude and unsophisticated. If this true, try another cartridge, I'm in similar position with analog and my top two cartridge replacements are Audio Technica ART-9xa and Lyra Delos, research those two, this alone could be satisfactory.

 

The failure rate on Linalai Elite comes from initial production, supposedly, they have reliability improved with latest iteration. Grant Fidelity has latest production. I'd  still go with the Elite solid plate, nice upgrade over Psvane.

 

So, if it were me, I'd do both Linlai and better cartridge. I don't think Alnic your problem. Coincident linestage is NOT the problem here. If you insist on selling I have buyer ready to go.

Charles and I both totally agree on CSLS, it is keeper and will never be the cause of some unwanted coloration. Just real honest sound quality, a reference component, if you need spice and flavor, add elsewhere.

 

 

@gte357s  What output tubes using in 211 and 300b. I was using Shuguang Black Treasure in my 300b amps until recent change to Psvane Acme, much more color with the Acme, Shuguangs bleached out in comparison. My 845 has also benefited with better output tubes.

 

Based on your comments as to airy, open vs warm, bass heavy I'd not change out major components at this point. Sounds like your close to your goal, small changes will likely get you where you want to be.

 

Change in output tubes,  and/or cartridge may be all you need. Change in power cords may help as well. Clean AC important as well. When you get to the level of equipment and resolving powers your at, little things can mean a lot. Looks to me like you have all the fundamentals in place, just need to tweak a bit.

 

 

Well, you've tried a lot of tubes, so I'd go back to trying different cartridge. I'd bet the correct cartridge will solve most if not all your issues.