I would like to start a thread, similar to Orpheus’ jazz site, for lovers of classical music. I will list some of my favorite recordings, CDs as well as LP’s. While good sound is not a prime requisite, it will be a consideration. Classical music lovers please feel free to add to my lists. Discussion of musical and recording issues will be welcome.
I’ll start with a list of CDs. Records to follow in a later post.
Berlioz: Symphonie Fantastique. Chesky — Royal Phil. Orch. Freccia, conductor. Mahler: Des Knaben Wunderhorn. Vanguard Classics — Vienna Festival Orch. Prohaska, conductor. Prokofiev: Scythian Suite et. al. DG — Chicago Symphony Abbado, conductor. Brahms: Symphony #1. Chesky — London Symph. Orch. Horenstein, conductor. Stravinsky: L’Histoire du Soldat. HDTT — Ars Nova. Mandell, conductor. Rachmaninoff: Symphonic Dances. Analogue Productions. — Dallas Symph Orch. Johanos, cond. Respighi: Roman Festivals et. al. Chesky — Royal Phil. Orch. Freccia, conductor.
All of the above happen to be great sounding recordings, but, as I said, sonics is not a prerequisite.
I loathe no composers, or musicians, Ervin Nyiregyházi for example ,or any other musician 😊 even if i had my own taste, choices, or habits...Loathing reflect more about us than about the music itself....
And loving Glass dont impede my love for Mozart "Cozi fan tutte" for example...
Then if someone take the time to express loathing about something, new, unknown, and perhaps about something he is not curious or ready to discover, perhaps the loathing is less useful than he think....
I dont remember loathing any kind of musical genre, even heavy metal...
I loathe too much decibels though....
Must i erase my recommendation ? Yes if too much people here loathe it...
By the way i dont remember to take my time to wrote hard words about a recommendation of music here or elsewhere because it is not abolutely pure "delicacy" to my fragile and sensitive taste....I guess i can chew much than some....
I already post this post today on my thread: "seeing sounds and music ", but it is his place here too....
If you want to test your audio system but at the same time you want to discover a classical masterpiece:
The most spectacular and difficult piece of recording i have useful to test all aspects of sound including hearing from speakers a recording where the sound COME AROUND the listener and often BEHIND HIS BACK, all that with a stereo system...Believe me or not...😁😊
Philip Glass : AKHNATON
Here the great variety of sound timbres and frequencies, solo and choral voices with Wagnerian tuba and percussions...
A great part of the sound fill my room with often voices not only BESIDE me at left or right, but voices and instruments behind my listening position at the direct opposite of the 2 speakers...
A well done acoustical stereo room is sometimes almost quadraphonic in effects with some well recording piece in my experience....
This cd is impossible to beat for testing the presence of individual instruments and voices perfectly distinguished by their timbre in this enormous mass of musicians....The test for bass will be astoundingly good because of the timbre variety of the different instruments in the bass register...
The best test for any system is timbre voice, because each human voice own an individuality unique to living system and gives a set of acoustical subtle acoustical cues impossible to hear with any instrument ... And a big mass of instruments or enormous chorals are very difficult to be and stay musically detailled and not mainly indistinct noises on less good system and no controlled room...
This works is also an astounding piece of musical genius which i will resume in this description, which is exactly only that, a description in my words, of the way the composer summarize all the history of music in his own minimalist mastery:
You will "see" around you and not only hear, a huge cosmical and tellurically grounded Wagnerian and Scriabinian opera, transforming itself at some times in a big orchestral Brucknerian symphony which at times become a beautiful complex Monteverdian madrigals set which hide the germs of sublime but ONLY emerging simple masterful counterpoints mantras like in Bach or like in the 5th finale Bruckner symphony, counterpoints mantras that ends often in a powerful chord or a ceremony of drum rolls or an incantatory recitative, like in shamanic ritual of the past mixed with pre-gregorian influence....Astoundingly deep, efficient, and beautiful musically...
All musical genres fusionned here in a minimalist style in plain control, inspired by one of the master of the young Glass, the blind street musician classically educated Moondog, the so called Viking of the 50 th street at N.Y. Louis Thomas Hardin, friend of the young Glass and one of the creator of this "minimalist" style or at least a mentor of the young Glass....
No doubt here, Philip Glass is a great composer who will stay for the future history....
His Akhenaton is hypnotic and initiatic, transformative at the highest level...
Nelson Freire, Piano Virtuoso of Warmth and Finesse, Dies at 77
Hailing
from Brazil as one of the great pianists of the last half of the 20th
century, he recalled masters of the first half in his virtuosity. But he
shunned the limelight.
Nelson
Freire, one of the greatest pianists of his time, at Alice Tully Hall
at Lincoln Center in 2013. His playing harked back to that of the first
half of the 20th century.Credit...Ruby Washington/The New York Times
By David Allen
Nelson
Freire, a reclusive pianist whose fabled technique and sensitive,
subtle musicianship made him a legend among pianophiles, died on Monday
at his home in Rio de Janeiro. He was 77.
His
manager, Jacques Thelen, confirmed the death. He said Mr. Freire had
been suffering from trauma after a fall in 2019, which led to surgery on
his upper right arm and left him unable to play.
Mr.
Freire was one of the greatest pianists of the past half century,
possessing a gift that, in its grace of touch and its ease of
virtuosity, recalled playing from the great masters of the half-century
before that.
“You will be hard pressed to find a recital of comparable warmth, affection and finesse,” the critic Bryce Morrison wrote
of a Debussy album from Mr. Freire in 2009, in words that might also
have spoken for his artistry as a whole. “Here, there is no need for
spurious gestures and inflections; everything is given with a supreme
naturalness and a perfectly accommodated virtuosity that declare Freire a
master pianist throughout.”
That
Mr. Freire was indeed a master pianist had never been in doubt. A child
prodigy, he gave his first performance at 4 and was attracting
attention at international competitions before his teens. His playing
had a wisdom that critics rarely failed to describe as innate.
“There
was hardly a single forced or teasing effect, not a sigh of
sentimentality, not a line of hectoring rhetoric,” Richard Dyer of The
Boston Globe wrote of a recital of Franck, Ravel, Chopin, Villa-Lobos
and Liszt in 1977. Mr. Freire, the critic continued, possessed “one of
the biggest natural talents for the keyboard that I have ever heard.”
Even
so, his profile remained relatively limited. Comparisons to Arthur
Rubinstein and Vladimir Horowitz abounded, but Mr. Freire was an
uncommonly reticent artist, giving fewer concerts than many of his
peers, recording only rarely early in his career and remaining
indifferent to publicity.
“There is a big difference between music and the music business,” he was quoted as saying in a 1992 profile in
The Baltimore Sun. “It’s a completely different language, and when I
get too involved in talking it, I get a little bit sick. As for talking
about myself, it actually bores me.”
For
much of his career, such reticence reduced aficionados, as The Sun put
it, to treat “pirate Freire tapes with the veneration an art historian
might accord to a recently rediscovered Rembrandt.”
But that began to change in Mr. Freire’s last two decades, when a series of recordings brought him wider attention.
“Whether Mr. Freire is shy or merely introspective, it is impossible to say,” Allen Hughes of The New York Times wrote
of the pianist’s New York recital debut in 1971. He noted that Mr.
Freire had “projected little of his own personality to the audience.”
“He was there, he played splendidly and that was it.”
ImageMr.
Freire at the Metropolitan Museum of Art in 2009. Critics often noted
his self-effacing quality. “He was there, he played splendidly and that
was it,” one wrote of a 1971 recital.Credit...Rachel Papo for The New York Times
Nelson
José Pinto Freire was born in Boa Esperança, in southeastern Brazil, on
Oct. 18, 1944. His father was a pharmacist, and his mother was a
teacher who bought a piano for Nelson’s sister, Nelma, one of four older
siblings. Nelson began to play from memory what he had heard Nelma
practice. After 12 lessons of his own, each of which involved a
four-hour bus ride down dirt tracks, his first teacher said that he had
nothing left to teach the boy.
The
family moved to Rio de Janeiro to find a new mentor; his father gave up
his career to work in a bank there. But Nelson, then 6, was an unruly
child, unwilling to be taught. With his parents about to give up, they
found Lucia Branco, who had trained under Arthur de Greef, a pupil of
Franz Liszt’s. Branco placed the boy with her student Nise Obino. “My
relationship with her was very strong,” Mr. Freire said of Ms. Obino in 1995, “the strongest in my life.”
His break came in 1957,
when he entered Rio’s first international piano competition and emerged
a finalist. Brazil’s president, Juscelino Kubitschek, offered him a
scholarship to study wherever he wanted to. He chose Vienna, and moved
there at 14 to work with Bruno Seidlhofer, joining a class that included
Rudolf Buchbinder and Martha Argerich, both of whom would go on to major international careers.
Ms. Argerich and Mr. Freire became frequent duo partners (and lifelong friends), both in concert and onrecord, her impulsive, electrifying style blending well with his tonal palette and impeccable timing.
“I
didn’t do much work,” Mr. Freire nonetheless recalled of his two years
in Vienna. He initially spoke no German and remained, after all, a
teenager far from home.
Little
success followed his return to Brazil, until he won first prize at the
Vianna da Motta International Music Competition in Lisbon and the Dinu
Lipatti Medal, presented in London, in 1964, accelerating his career in
Europe.
Mr. Freire began recording for
Columbia in the late 1960s, taping solo works by Schumann, Brahms and
Chopin, as well as a double album of concertos by Tchaikovsky, Liszt,
Grieg and Schumann, with Rudolf Kempe conducting the Munich Philharmonic. That album, Time magazine reported in 1970, “caught the critics by surprise and sent them scurrying for superlatives.”
Mr.
Freire would scarcely return to the recording studio until 2001, after
which he embarked on a golden period with Decca that produced nuanced,
masterly releases of everything from Bach to Villa-Lobos, one of several Brazilian composers whom he played with pride.
Perhaps most valuable were standard-setting discs of the Chopin études, sonatas and nocturnes, as well as Brahms concertos with Riccardo Chailly and the Leipzig Gewandhaus Orchestra.
“This is the Brahms piano concerto set we’ve been waiting for,” the critic Jed Distler wrote
in Gramophone in 2006, praising it for fusing “immediacy and insight,
power and lyricism, and incandescent virtuosity that leaves few details
unturned, yet always with the big picture in clear sight.”
Mr.
Freire is survived by a brother, Nirval. His parents were killed in
1967 when a bus they were using to travel to hear Mr. Freire perform in
Belo Horizonte, in their home state of Minas Gerais, plunged into a
ravine.
Whatever repertoire Mr. Freire
turned to, he had a depth of tonal variety, a poetry of phrasing and a
natural, almost joyous refinement.
In “Nelson Freire,” a 2003 documentary film, he is shown watching a video of a joyous Errol Garner playing jazz piano. “I’ve never seen anyone play with such pleasure,” he said.
“That’s
how I found the piano,” Mr. Freire continued. “The piano was the
moment, when I was little, when I felt pleasure. I’m not happy after a
concert if I haven’t felt that kind of pleasure for at least a moment.
Classical pianists used to have this joy. Rubinstein had it. Horowitz
had it, too. Guiomar Novaes had it, and Martha Argerich has it.”
What about you, the interviewer asked?
Mr. Freire lit a cigarette, looked up shyly, and smiled.
I like both Stirling and Perth Len with a little preference because of the historical side of things. The Scottish kings had their power base in Stirling castle till Mary Queen of Scots went to Edinburgh to try and get away from the Presbyterians and we all know that didn't work out. No I like Stirling because it is very near the central belt.
Thank you for the post Len the music was very nice. It is just a pity folk singers can't be a bit more imaginative with their guitar accompaniments though, it's always the same old DADGAD tuning that gets trotted out. I used to go to a folk club in Ayr at one time and heard some big names in the Scottish scene and that particular tuning was in it's infancy then and it was used for playing Pibroch's on the guitar then. Tony McManus and Martin Simpson were big then and it was quite refreshing as it was used to good measure in minor key music replicating the pipes because of the low A and D's on the bottom strings replicating the drones. Oh and the song Ca' the Yowes, I won the annual Burns prize at school once singing that particular song in my boy soprano days. I won a copy of Burn's Kilmarnock Edition of his works, oh how I wish I had a real Kilmarnock Edition first edition it would be worth a fortune now. Be safe Len.
If God decided to give me a do-over to my wasted life and I could go to any college , in ANY country .it would be be this one 25 miles south of my house . And few have been to as many as I .
This tiny minute + clip seems like a ":pitch" it is, AND every word is true!
After thinking what a man like Bernard should have as a good-bye should be the very best and something he played that seems apt . Just a small drop in a small bucket from a nobody .But here it is.
It is with very great sadness that I have just found out about the death of Bernard Haitink aged 92. Mr Haitink was a conductor that I greatly admired but only heard live once at an Edinburgh Festival conducting Mahler's Third Symphony and like all Haitink performances totally devoid of showmanship but getting right to the heart of the music. I hope the celestial podium is ready and waiting for him. RIP.
Lovely piece and one of the sleepers of the clarinet rep. Seldom mentioned outside the clarinet world, unfortunately. I have a feeling you’ll like this rendition:
As a technical aside, in a way, the upload of your clip is truer to the composer’s intent. Typical of Martinu, who was known for unorthodox use of form, he wrote the piece as a single movement with three sections; as opposed to three distinct movements. A subtle, but important distinction when considering the shape of the entire work.
Surely in no small part due to its proximity (geographical and others) to the Baltic Lands, Hungary also has a very rich and interesting choral tradition which draws heavily on its traditional folk music:
Speaking of the unfortunately neglected Zoltan Kodaly. To paraphrase a previous comment by (our) Schubert, if one wants the spirit of a culture’s (Hungary) folk music, one needs a Hungarian band:
Here is one for all you Brahmsians out there , A young Frenchman who has just won the Queen Elisabeth Prize in Belgium and other prestigious awards. His name is Johnathan Fournel and I predict he is going to be a big hit. He plays Brahms Piano Sonata No 3 in F Minor and his Handel Variations and What a delight it is. The Sonata is a delight in virtuousity with Fortissimo chords at the start and watch your speakers as this recording takes no prisoners. The second movement which is an open secret of unrequited love to Clara Schumann which he does take rather literally but the playing is an utter delight. The other piece is a favourite of mine The Handel Variations which show just how good Brahms was as a young man if he could spawn these but unfortunately as he got older he was very lapse at keeping his technique in shape. Anyway Fournel is very adept at these with not too fast speeds taken to let the music breath. But he can take things at a fair lick when he feels like it. All in all a very good first recording and the first of many. It is streaming on Qobuz just now .
All the Baltic Lands have been noted for their Choirs since time immoral .
This one in the Lithuanian Capital is a favorite of mine and, God Willing, I hope to be there and St Saviour’s in Riga, Latvia at Easter time . This is the start of a Sun Rise Mass,
More important is him coming to the truth that Humans need Nature to be what they are. I live in a large city but there are trees , flowers, waters and large parks all around me, I need just to walk out the door, Last night I saw 3 deer on my walk , I saw 4 wild turkey hunting the worms coming out after this morning rain about out my window an hour ago .
Rvpiano, melm, and jim204, thank you for your suggestions. Either digital, used or new, or vinyl new would be fine. I’ll search out all your suggestions. Maybe I’ll have to get a couple of versions, one in either format.
Mike
Update: I found a $2.50 "Like New" CD copy of the Dorati on Amazon and ordered it. That 49 cent "Very Good" copy was still available, but now I’m feeling like a big spender. I’ll look into the two vinyl versions Melm suggested next.
@skyscraper Since you say "pressing" I assume you are looking for vinyl. Two that I have enjoyed are Solti/Chicago on London/Decca and Davis/Concertgebouw on Philips. These are true analog recordings. Both are fine performances with great, but very different, sound. The Dorati/Detroit is an early digital which I found kind of harsh sounding. Good performance though. Dorati’s Stravinsky was excellent also. If I wanted Dorati I would look to Mercury or Golden Imports.
Antal Dorati with the Detroit Symphony on Decca. ‘My favorite version in outstanding sound. if you do a Google search for it find Amazon’s listing where you can have it used for as little as $0.49. 19 used copies available at various prices.
I’m looking to get a new copy of Stravinsky’s "Rites of Spring" to replace one that was stolen years ago. Could you recommend your favorite recording of this work, Hopefully one that is still available to be purchased, or maybe not too difficult to find on the used market. I’m not looking for a high priced audiophile pressing, just a good, if not great, performance to enjoy. Thanks,
P.S Foolish folk say that that was wrong at .28 , that at. 40 as if humans could do the same every time .
This LP was from 1958 , Krips was their leader before and the players of the Great LSO wished he still was.
They gave their him their all and loving soul will win . P.S.S I'm sure you all noticed that Schubert backed off the strings in favor of the brass and wind , PURE genius .
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