Classical Music for Aficionados


I would like to start a thread, similar to Orpheus’ jazz site, for lovers of classical music.
I will list some of my favorite recordings, CDs as well as LP’s. While good sound is not a prime requisite, it will be a consideration.
  Classical music lovers please feel free to add to my lists.
Discussion of musical and recording issues will be welcome.

I’ll start with a list of CDs.  Records to follow in a later post.

Berlioz: Symphonie Fantastique.  Chesky  — Royal Phil. Orch.  Freccia, conductor.
Mahler:  Des Knaben Wunderhorn.  Vanguard Classics — Vienna Festival Orch. Prohaska, conductor.
Prokofiev:  Scythian Suite et. al.  DG  — Chicago Symphony  Abbado, conductor.
Brahms: Symphony #1.  Chesky — London Symph. Orch.  Horenstein, conductor.
Stravinsky: L’Histoire du Soldat. HDTT — Ars Nova.  Mandell, conductor.
Rachmaninoff: Symphonic Dances. Analogue Productions. — Dallas Symph Orch. Johanos, cond.
Respighi: Roman Festivals et. al. Chesky — Royal Phil. Orch. Freccia, conductor.

All of the above happen to be great sounding recordings, but, as I said, sonics is not a prerequisite.


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Hmm, she seems to do""lesser Composers ""as well .

As she is with a band I love guess it’s OK .

 

 

 

 

 

 

Here is a pianist who is doing the best of Schubert ,

which is to say the best . Never heard her but she is up to it and in to it!

 

 

 

 

@jcazador    

Hi Jeremy,

I have looked for the recording you mentioned but cannot find it on Idagio. I have consolidated my streaming now , I have given up Qobuz because of this dammed decision to play music by female composers, before any of you jump on me I have not got it in for female musicians or composers in fact my third favourite pianist is Martha Argerich so I am just saying that I am fed up with each month taken up by lesser musicians so I stopped Qobuz. What I will ay there is a disc with Yuya Wang and a cellist ( forget his name ) doing the rounds and she is playing Rachmaninov and it is really special. I would have a look out for it if I was you as I am sure you will enjoy it . Another very special female musician is Maria Joao P Pires which at the moment I am listening to her Chopin - Piano Concerto No 1, It is absolutely beautiful as is all things from her.

Jim

please give a listen to Moravec and Sasa Vectomov (cello) playing Ravel's Habanera.

if you have ever heard anything prettier, please let me know

 

I would like to say that Claudio Arrau and Vladimir Horowitz were fully up to and in certain ways passed Moravec with their playing. As far as Arrau is concerned you only have to look on Idagio at the moment and he is playing the 4 Ballades and the 4 Scherzi. which was a stupendous disc when it came out at first. I went through a couple of LPs by constantly playing them. It was so strange for a lot of people to believe that a South American who trained in the Germanic tradition could play Chopin so well. He had a repertoire that ranged from Bach to Schoenberg. His Debussy was beautifully liquid and his rubatos were wonderful. And now of course we have Mr Horowitz who I think got better as he got older and thank goodness he still had a reasonable technique left to give us some wonderful recordings for us to savour. Get your wallet out !!!

Give me any pianist name that play at the same level or better i will buy his album right now...If i dont already know him ... 😊

Moravec is one of my FEW gods on piano....All his album are TOP artistic playing with none musically underpar with the others...I listen to them all...If he is not the best he is beside the best interpreter of a piece...This pianist is not so well known because probably he is too great to be true...

His color sense is astounding and his mastery of the flowing "hues" unsurpassed save by few other gods....he dont play piano , he is a painter...

Do you want to SEE the "cathedral engloutie" under water?

I was in love with Debussy after listening him....Never before...

When your eye catch what look like a cathedral under water you never forgot it...

I discovered Moravec because of a friend who wanted to cure me at all cost of my Sofronitsky and Nyiregyhazi serious disease for months....He succeeded...I was able at last to listen to another pianist....😁😊

 

«Only a diamond can replace a diamond»-Lazare Kaplan diamond cutter

 

 

 

listen to it at 4m41s.

Superb:

Ivan Moravec "Portrait"  11 cd collection

from Beethoven to Janacek

 

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I was surprised when a few post back the mention of Sir John Barbrioli's Mahler as it was a series I planed to look into years back after a sample of the 4th from HD Tracks. I received a complete box set offered on Amazon at a great price and I'm smitten by the sound and performance and see why it's the favorite of some. My go to's are Fisher, Tilson , Karajan and Zander's 5th.

Thanks for the nod on this fantastic rendition as no Mahler fan should be without.

Well, you do have great taste , mahgister !

I need to go back from most present composers because there is a lot of dissonant

and very little consonant .

Only Janacek got over that mountain ,at least to my taste . Of course he was Czech, build into his native tongue .

Basis is Basic .

You can NOT be too passionate when it comes to the greatest feat of the Western World !!

All else in Art is a picture of something else , Classical Music is the thing itself .

Vivaldi is very young when he published his sonatas opus 2...

He was very motivated by the Corelli domination of all Italian musical scene..

I imagine him, offering his work with a real but also some " distorted sense of humility" to the older Master.. With the back tought to prove itself to the old master in the Corellian writing style and form itself....

These Vivaldi sonatas are very Corellian inspired one but with the characteristical Vivaldian melodic pulse and rythmical surge though...And some say erroneously that they lack the  depth of the future works to come, they dont lack depth they dont look for depth at all,   here Vivaldi was looking   for a magical SPELL and he succeeded...

I imagine the old master reading them or playing them and thinking about this young man like the future master of all musicians by his seductive spontaneous inspiration , save perhaps Bach or Beethoven or Mozart and very few others to come..

Corelli is great indeed...And the Vivaldi "greek gift" is a testimony to the old master also...But also a treat....These Vivaldian sonatas are a pure masterpiece, never surpassed by other Vivaldian sonatas to come, they are not an imperfect work by a beginner at all, even if vivaldi is 21 years old....These pieces a no less achieved and polished than any of his future best works, they present a cohesive rythmical unity between them that is marvellous...Vivaldi wrote and never work hard save for certain works where he put some hard polishing effort, the "4 seasons" for example and these sonatas i think because he wanted to impress the Corelli roaring lion...

I listened to these sonatas opus 2 near one thousand times, almost each day for more than three years when i was writing ... I know, i know i am a bit too passionate and excessive man in music or in love ... 😁😊

I prefer this old interpretation on conventional modern instruments to the new one with old instruments...

 

IMO Corelli is at the head of the Great , who cares, in North American at least.

He had influence on two Germans , Bach and Handel, esp. the later..

When I need both rest and energy I often go to Corelli .

The orchestra  is the Slovak Chamber Orchestra out of Prague in 70's and 80's .

More proof  of my cry that the Czechs are the most Classical Music  people in the world .

 

 

You caught me , I really don't like  Idagio or the rest of them , no great reason , 

just don't like them . What you said is all I need.

Cheers 

@jim5559 

I have found one Schubert disc in what may appear to be a set to come on the CPO label. String Quartets include Rosamunde and Death and the Maiden which are up to their consistently high standards. The dynamics are superb with a lovely rich and well layered sound. I would certainly recommend it. It's on Idagio at the moment. Let me know what you think if you find it.

Any thoughts on this Qt  on Schubert  ?

Jim 204 said they were great on Haydn and I agree .

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They told her she was not a Mozart singer ,I imagine Wolfgang Amadeus minded not, !

My 72 LP’s of her is not enough .

 

 

You are  the man  204 ,  whatever you say goes with me.!

 

Thanks ,edcyn, us  mortals would  sure think they would be worn out but they would need about 2 minutes.

 

 

 

New to me but has been on my radar for a listen, Should have gotten to it sooner!

@ei001h I’ve got a couple Lutoslawski LPs. A Mercury Golden Import with Aftertones of Infinity. And Concerto for Orchestra and other works on Philips. A good guy... The LPs sit right next to my Lopatnikoff.

Has anyone heard of Witold Lutoslawski ? Polish composer. 

Just listened to his Variations on a theme of Paganini (1941) arr. for Piano, strings and percussion. There is only one recording made by Denis Matsuev on Idagio. 

This recording also includes a powerful performance of Shostakovich Piano concerto 1, and Schnittke Concerto for Piano and orchestra, which I also found very interesting. Appears Schnittke was influenced by Shostakovich. 

@jim5559 

Re:  the Los Angeles Bjorling duet. Left me breathless. Probably left them breathless, too...

Barenboim is one of the greatest musicians on the planet right now. He will be sorely missed when he goes. If you want to hear him at his best with his conductors clothes on go to Qobuz or Idagio and look up Tchaikovsky Violin Concerto with Liza Batiashvihli on fiddle, fireworks galore. Thanks jim for the Schumann.

I love Opera and go as much as I can in Chicago .

One thing I know,, I will never hear anything as Great as they this side of heaven !

The two were made to sing together by God .

 

 

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"Ain't But a Few of Us Left"

Milt Jackson, Grady Tate, Ray Brown, Oscar Peterson

 

Pablo Records, 1982

I dont own this one Holliger.... Incredibly beautiful...

Words fails us in new ways...

 

Thanks...

Holliger is a fantastic musician ! 

Doing a lot of conducting these days .  Some think Haydn did not write this .

NOBODY  questions  who played the oboe .

 

 

pryso, missed your question; sorry about that.

You are exactly right; so that not all the stands of (in this case) violins have to turn the page at the same time.  Notice that the violins with pages 1&2 of the music showing are also on the outside, closest to the audience.  Optics.  

This is the job of the orchestra’s music library.  Photocopying page 2 of the music which is often on the backside of page 1 makes it possible to have both pages visible without having to make a page turn.  Sometimes music publishers don’t pay enough attention to where it makes most sense to put a rest written in the part and the player is forced to make a very quick page turn; sometimes even in the middle of a phrase forcing the player to have to play a measure or two from memory.  

Of course, in any given score not all instruments have the same number of notes to play and while the violins may have two pages of music in the first movement of that concerto (as is the case in this work) a different instrument or section of instruments may have all the music for that movement on just one page.  

Hope this helps and best wishes.

 

Incredible!

Any virtuoso can play well and very well, but few can SING and singing is not a result from only practising but from the heart feeling mood swing ....

Thanks indeed....

Happy new year for you and your big ears indeed and bigger heart,,,,

mahgister. found you the same Korean lady ! This time you get a beautiful Schubert

, really he is that forever . Unusual , that though Asians play him well , few get the real Germanic touch as well as her .

 

 

The mahgister strikes again .

Happy New Year !

 

Don’t tell , but Vietnam Regular Army didn’t mind to take on US Army, Marines or Navy .

If they heard the South Koreans were around they had something else to do.

 

I see Legault is shutting the door again . IMO smart .

wow! Thanks for this Haydn...

I always loved Korean films....and musicians... This interpretation is top....

Thanks rv!

I’m not a piano expert , I just play what I like with somebody I want to hear .

This Haydn piece is all of that !

 

 

Jim5559,

I own the GoldenEar Triton 1 speakers. 
With my setup they sound magnificent for classical.

I imagine further down the line the sound has the same signature.

Honest . They were seamless !

And their conducer was not there as ,of yesterday the virus struck him

I have just have been lucky enough  to hear the live steam of the Berlin Symphony

on the every year 31st.

1. Bruch Vn 1 ,  Beautiful , one could ask for no more ,Jenine Jansan.

I could say the Berliners could turn on a dime , but I would have to cut the dime in half first,.

2, The ""Firebird Suite"" ,   I felt a bit strange ,what's going on here.

Got to the point where I got up and paced around the room.

A lighting bolt struck me , without a sole , the Berliner's, to my brain ,have no musicians , The music itself sang for itself more than the Greatest Diva ever could .

At that time in that music Berlin had THE Greatest Orchestra in the World .!

3. Revel ,La  Waltz ,  Same as Firebird with less power as you would expect.

 

Perhaps , I  just figured out how to listen after x decades .

Does anyone know if a GoldenearTriton7 is good on Classical?

I have a chance to buy a pr for 600$ .6 months old.

It;s a death , I The wife knows what he paid for but 600$ for me is 6 bucks to her. and I ain’t poor .