Class D for a Tube Lover


First, I'm sure this has been asked many times but searching the subject wasn't too helpful to me.

So apologies in advance.

I enjoy tubed electronics and class A amps, which tend to be a bit warm.  My current Cary 805s warm my small (12x16) music room even in the cool/cold of winter.  I've got other amps that don't produce much heat, but am looking for something that produces no heat.  Living in a home with no central AC the room gets uncomfortably hot during the summer months.

So...I'd like to try some Class D amps.  Stereo or mono is just fine.  And my speakers aren't difficult to drive so I don't need a thousand watts.  But if that thousand watt amp sounds great, I'm not adverse to that, either.

I'd like to keep the price under 2k used.  

Please help.

Thanks.


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According to my personal experience, it makes not much sense to mix class D with tube preamplification. While class D may give a clear very low distortion sound, tubes would always add a notable (for me) distortion that ruins class D clean sound. I prefer to use either pure tube setting or pure SS setting as I enjoy both kinds of sounds. Mixing tubes with class D gives some extra warmth but also a notable distortion which, for me, they are not compatible. 

And one more vote of PS audio Stellar S300. I use it in my third system with PS audio Gain Cell pre. I use this system not very often. Each time I return to it, it sounds better. They took quite a while, far above 400 hours, to come to the sound of that quality, which is clean alive and presential, live recordings sound especially good, the base it tight, mid and high frequencies,  dynamics are fine, there is nothing to complain about, especially for the price.  The difference as they sounded at the beginning and now is just drastic and the sound is still getting better. My initial confusion was also caused by the DAC incorporated into the pre, which is not indeed good I use now an external one. It is a rear case when one gets completely satisfied with what he has. 
Hm. You need to hear better preamps! The way to limit distortion (and colorations) with tubes is not unlike how you would do it with transistors- go fully differential. This keeps the even ordered harmonics down (part of the 'tube' sound) allowing for far more transparency. If you have such a preamp it can work fine with the very transparent class D amps that are now available.


You made me to reconsider a tube pre option with class D. @ml...  did you also try a non-tube pre with Stellar S300?

@atmasphere, this is also a stimulating note for me since i was and remain to be a tube fun.   I still enjoy very much my tube integrated. Could you be a bit more specific on "marching the distortions" and what kind of a tube preamp could be of a "right type"?

Essentially, give you best of both worlds... 
This sounds perfect. 
Thanks @ml... for letting us know your thoughts and impressions. I understand your preamp is LA300me, should be very good. Looks like that you have spent about 8 times more in your preamp than in your power amp right? 

Compared to PS audio DAC, I guess your amp gives more soundstage, gain/power, is the sound also  more clean and transparent?