Class D amps seem poised to take over. Then what?


I am certainly biased by my lifetime final amp being a Class D. But I know that after 30+ years of development, Class D seems to be on a high plain. I know there are now many, many companies focusing on Class D and, maybe, a good handful already as good as it gets. My Class D amp is as smooth and beautifully musical as a great tube amp and as punchy and detailed as a great SS amp. I am satisfied and done with my search. A class D amp has effectively taken me off the amp merry-go-round. It’s about time after 50 years. And, for me, this Class D is a milestone. Will all other classes of amps fade away?
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earlflynn,  I did answer your silly question. Maybe you need another degree in listening, and I think you and georgie would make for a swell couple.

All the best,
Nonoise
I see you posted while I composed and as usual, you're off your rocker and headed over the cliff my man. Nothing racist in what I said, even in the quote you're using. But, be my guest and show the mods. They'll be scratching their heads over that one for ages.

As to who deleted all the insanity you posted before, I could care less if the mods did or you did it, out of shame and embarrassment. That's your cross to carry. 

What this all boils down to is you and georgie hate when your bullying backfires in your face.

All the best,
Nonoise
Wait......does mean you get the last word?
And......you were waiting to see if, and when, I'd post again?
You do know I have a restraining order against you and you can't follow me on a thread anymore, right?

Three, two, one........

All the best,
Nonoise
Looks like earlthepearl is unraveling again and he has georgieporgie as his dance partner.  No better tag team can be imagined. 

georgieporgie probably came from the bottom of a just finished Vegimite moonshine bender but what brought him to this thread was his never ending quest for revenge at losing so many arguments. Keep your Dingos away from him when he's like this folks, or he'll be up on charges again.

As for earlthepearl, how can we forget the noble fight he put up in defense of the defenseless, which got all his posts deleted last time around. Seems that revenge is the rage with these losers.

All this free association they do is really bizarre as no one responds to them and they just keep hacking up these hairball posts.

All the best,
Nonoise
pukeofearl, all Admin has to do is put everything back up and it would show just how big a liar you are. Now you're hiding behind deletions and hoping those who've already read them won't speak up.

You're still smarting over what you did on that other thread. It was you who attacked me. When you first attempt failed, you started with the name calling. When that failed, you accused me of sympathizing with cops killers. When that failed was about the time georgie chimed in. When he was of no use, you played the race card and accused me or racism, with of all thing, a quote about Dingos and georgie's perverse affinity for them. 

Classic projection from a bully. And it's sad to think the youth of our nation serving in the CAP are being taught by the likes of you, and that you'd hide behind it's skirts, using it as some kind of shield of immunity, as if just saying it absolves you.

And, thanks to the mods for deleting georgie's slander. 

All the best,
Nonoise
georgie, are you that dense? I'm responding to you and your insults. Do you think you get some sort of pass? You can't be that infantile.

All the best,
Nonoise
What georgie should do is stop ****** ******* *** ***** ** **** *** **** *** ***.
There are specs, and then there are specs. A fuller understanding helps with this primer I came across:https://darko.audio/2021/06/kih-89-mind-the-gap/

All the best,
Nonoise
Keep your Dingos away from him
What does that even mean?


Anger issues, I'm guessing.
Pour another glass of that Vegimite moonshine.
You'll feel better soon enough. 🥃
 
What we're often hearing from many higher priced class A/B and good quality class A amps, are amp designs that intentionally emphasize or overemphasize the even ordered harmonics, which tends to be perceived by humans as a warm coloring added to the music that many individuals prefer.
     Better class D amps generally have a very accurate, detailed and neutral sound quality, with little to nothing added or subtracted to the musical signals that results in a very high degree of faithfulness to the recorded music. This is something one needs to experience to make sure they enjoy this type of amp design and sound signature, since it equally and accurately reveals good and poor quality recordings without prejudice. You may prefer some added coloring either through the amp or via tubes in the dac or preamp. You won't know for certain until you hear the differences between them with music that you're very familiar with.
Very well said. It's all about the implementation and the expectations.

All the best,
Nonoise



All noise, when a subject is attacked for being snake oil, voodoo or whatever, that is fair game and keeps the shillers down.
Now georgie, since when is a discussion on Class D a snake oil or voodoo themed topic? You’re all over the place. Haphazard. You're the one who brought up the topic of fuses. 
But you then retaliate by attacking the poster or in the last case their dog personally.
What you need to learn is the ability to recognize snark (humor) when it’s deployed as a means to combat your strangeness.
And that’s where the difference is, and why you get deleted more than anyone on Audiogon.🤦‍♂️
Far from it, sunshine. 😄

All the best,
Nonoise






Is that you, skypunk, or is it earlflynn? Easy to get those two mixed up.
Good to see you dropped your selfie and have that aeroplane as your new avatar. Nothing like reinventing yourself, I’m told, but I’ve never had to do it.

As for my psyche, it’s never been better.
Your concern is so touching.
Are the meds working now?  😄

All the best,
Nonoise
To wake up and see that Admin had a knee jerk reaction to the unfounded claims of racism from a pair of losers sickens me. And they still have georgie's post up in the matter. 

After losing so many arguments in the past on the simple matter of fuses only to see georgie jump in from left field on a discussion of Class D amps to join in with earlflynn, who's still pissed off from his lame attempts to protect MC when he went off the rails on another thread, shows more than a troubling trend.

Neither one had anything to add to the discussion and just dog piled on me for revenge's sake. Then to have Admin fall for the asinine, hail mary claim of racism against me speaks volumes for their ineptness. Their quotes of what I said had no racism whatsoever in them. If it was their intention to just clean things up, why leave georgie's slanderous comment up at the top of this page?

Both of these are unstable characters, yet Admin seems to want to play the hand of least, true moderation for the sake of, what? I certainly don't understand. When bullies are bested at their game with good doses of humor, it seems to enrage them, but hey, that's my style. I never opt to go as low as they do, which seems to make them only mad as hatters.
Having Admin mess things up even further puts a real sour note on the whole matter.

All the best,
Nonoise
@earlflynn, are you under the mistaken belief that I and others just hang out on this forum with nothing better to do? None of this happens in "real" time. 

Sorry to hear about your son but you're sadly mistaken in thinking I hate cops. I have one uncle who was a captain and ran 44th St, Shootin' Newton, Rampart and other divisions. He was also in IA and sorted out the bad cops. He was also one of the lead investigators in the Charles Manson and Sirhan Sirhan cases. 

The other was an Asst. DA for over 30 years with a 98% conviction record, and while we're at it, another was a fire battalion chief. You know where you can stick it. Besides, it's not the side I support that stormed the capitol and beat and killed police. Were they people you supported?

Next, where did you get the idea that I'm a strong supporter of Class D? I'm just asking questions that you need not butt in on since you're all into tubes with your Hungarian Ghoulash amp, so remember, don't drink and fly when getting those tubes. We'd hate to lose you as you're such a distraction.

It seems comprehension is not your forte. Why would I ask about the Technics if I've already tried it in my system? Not ranting. Not raving. Just asking. There's no magic in words so saying something stupid doesn't make it so, no matter how many times you say something stupid. Capisce? . 

All the best,
Nonoise
And your is of the small pond you are a big fish in.
That thankfully, your countenance will never reflect in.
You'd scare all the fish away.
Looks like earlflynn is gonna have a relapse and we're gonna see a redux of his Juneteenth/Father's Day meltdown.
Get your popcorn and have the kids leave the room. 👍

@mapman , what you describe is pretty much what I've read about the Technics. Sound with no unnecessary flavoring. Only one reviewer felt that it sounded a bit cooler when running coax from the SACD companion piece. He went onto say that it was like listening to someone who perfected their playing but sounding a bit robotic. All of the reviewers loved playing their turntables through it, but I just use CDs, so there's that.

@tvad , thanks. But earlflynn is not gonna change anytime soon.

All the best,
Nonoise
@earlflynn,
Go back in this very short thread and show where I've been ranting about Class D and the Technics Su-G700. Asking about something is not ranting, and that sentence of mine that you quoted shows desperation.  Something a kid would do.

It's looking more and more apparent that your avatar is a selfie.

All the best,
Nonoise
How many who've commented negatively on Class D have heard the Technics SU-G700 in their system?

All the best,
Nonoise
Class D started as the "beyond meat" of amplification designs.
Now, that’s funny. But, looking at the Technics, they’re not using an off the shelf Class D unit but designed theirs in-house and turned the whole thing into one big DAC/power amp, again, not using any off the shelf DAC from another make.

A retailer told me that Technics is doing things other companies simply haven’t thought of. The only other company that comes to mind is Esoteric, who developed their own DAC architecture in some of their players. There must be some others but I haven’t researched enough to suss them out. FPGAs are becoming commonplace but this is another kettle of fish.

(grannyring, it’s a Technics SU-G700 and not a Yamaha)

All the best,
Nonoise


Tempting as the Legacy is, it’s more than I need and I’d have to get a pre amp as well. An integrated is all I need. I found some German reviews that said the Technics bettered a Lavardian integrated, an AVM, and stood well against one reviewers $30K set up.

Now reviews are dime a dozen but even one reviewer answered my email and said to just get it as he almost kept the one he reviewed.

I’ve had my present set up since 2013 and from what I’ve read, the tech has progressed enough to make a difference. It’s just that those new speaker cables made such a drastic improvement, but I know I’ll eventually get that itch....

All the best,
Nonoise
Thanks for bringing this up. I've been on the fence for the last month or so over the Technics SU-G700. I even got a quote for trade in on my old gear and although a bit on the low side, I'd get it for about 1/3 of asking price.

The only thing stopping me from taking the plunge is some new speaker cables that have completely changed the sound of my set up to the point where it's all new music I'm listening to. 

I still have this nagging urge to just get it as the few reviews out there really like it. 

All the best,
Nonoise