Center channels: why only horizontal arrays?

I'd like to see someone like JL Audio design about three sizes of center speakers with room correction. They probably need to be powered, fit flush below various monitors with a special cabinet, and allow for highly variable tuning.

There are speaker companies that will not release a center speaker because they feel a horizontal speaker is too much of a comprimise over a vertical speaker. They also do not have enough room to make a proper vertical speaker for HT.

Rather, the RF-7's are positioned in the usual VERTICAL array flanking the monitor.

Definately, matched is best. However, that's not always possible, especially with rare, or very expensive, or huge mains.

I wired two Klipsch RF-7's (modified horn crossovers) together in mono through my processor, flanking my 60" monitor. Each RF-7 gets dedicated amps from my Proceed AMP 5.

They are toed-in slightly and far and away exceed the sound of a single RC-7 on a stand below the screen (good for smaller rooms). It also looks much better.

Dual-centers in horizontal arrays is ideal with a large monitor in my 30 x 30 space. Realistic soundstage, spaciousness, and lots of clear headroom. Much improved in every way.

Aesthetics. A vertical array will have better off-axis performance although you probably don't have seating far enough out.

A speaker with identical drivers, cross-overs, baffle width, and enclosure volume will provide the best match and not have anomalies where a sound track spreads music across the front 3 speakers.

03-09-09: Dcrugby...
i'm getting a funny image in my head, though, with the way you've got "aesthetics" spelled there, Pmcneil - i'm seeing a bunch of buddhist monks watching movies on a nice home theater system, but it has a horizontal center channel because they've renounced the luxury and materialism of a vertical center channel...
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Reminded me of this...

"Monastery Life"

A young monk arrives at the monastery. He is assigned to helping the other monks in copying the old canons and laws of the church by hand.

He notices, however, that all of the monks are copying from copies, not from the original manuscript. So, the new monk goes to the head abbot to question this, pointing out that if someone made even a small error in the first copy, it would never be picked up! In fact, that error would be continued in all of the subsequent copies.
The head monk, says, 'We have been copying from the copies for centuries, but you make a good point, my son.'

He goes down into the dark caves underneath the monastery
where the original manuscripts are held as archives in a locked
vault that hasn't been opened for hundreds of years. Hours go
by and nobody sees the old abbot .

So, the young monk gets worried and goes down to look for him. He sees him banging his head against the wall and wailing.
We missed theR!
We missed theR!
We missed theR!'
His forehead is all bloody and bruised and he is crying
uncontrollably. The young monk asks the old abbot, 'What's wrong, father?'
With A choking voice, the old abbot replies,

'The word was...

CELEBRATE!!!'

when i used a rptv, i used the horizontal, but after moving to the front projection, i have exclusively used a full range tower speaker. I have used it below my screen when my room allowed and currently use it behind my screen. I believe most of the early designs are based on sitting on a traditional tv or RPTV as it was difficult to figure out how to put that big tower speaker or even small monitor around the center without taking away from the aestitics of the "theater" effect.

There are some good stand mount speakers that are designed to do vertical or horizintal. Like the now discontinued Wilson Audio Cubs. In better times, I owned 3 Cubs: 2 on stands for left and right fronts and the third sitting horizontally on top of my old 52" rear projection TV.

If you cannot get decent mid and tweeter alignment between center and mains the I'd recommend you go phantom for a small audience of one or two. More trouble than it is worth in many cases but you'll definitely need one if you have a crowd over with seats way outside the sweetspot.

Its just more practical for the average consumer,I have tried them both ways and for a center application there is often no huge difference worth worrying about in sound quality.

aesthetics and practicality. most people just don't have the space for a vertical speaker under their tv.

i think they both screw up the imaging and run the risk of directionality myself.

i'm getting a funny image in my head, though, with the way you've got "aesthetics" spelled there, Pmcneil - i'm seeing a bunch of buddhist monks watching movies on a nice home theater system, but it has a horizontal center channel because they've renounced the luxury and materialism of a vertical center channel...

(i'm definitely not one to nitpick on spelling, it just happened to give me a chuckle there!)

Esthetics and assumed ignorance of acoustics (on the part of the typical user) are the only reasons. A conventional vertical array is superior and preferred by many who use three identical speakers for the front L/C/R.

Kal