CD ripping for the lower end.


I have a decent hifi system. I listen to CDs mostly. Thinking about going modestly digital just to test the waters. Right now I have an old iMac that will be my server. It is too old for all current ripping and cataloging software so it will probably be iTunes for ripping and playing. I will use Apple Remote on my cell phone which is a fairly capable remote at this level and works with the older version of iTunes on this old iMac.This is all probably commensurate with the entry level DAC I just got used off eBay, a Schiit Modi 2 Uber. I’ll get a Monoprice USB cable for it. I’ve got some high end RCA cables for DAC to Pre-amp.

If this works out okay and the SQ is tolerable I might step things up and use my MacBook Pro in which case I could get dBpoweramp for ripping and something to bypass iTunes for playback. Might even upgrade the DAC.

The first question I have is that for right now, what format should I rip the CDs to? Space is not a big concern. I’ve only got about 150 CDs and won’t rip them all. The primary consideration would be sound quality and future ’portability’ if I move up to higher end DAC and all that.

The second question is should I use my MacBook or new iMac to rip using dBpoweramp and then move the files to the old iMac?

Thanks for your help.

George
n80

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"Once you've ripped your CD, put it in a closet in a binder. CD's die in less than 50 years."
Huh, some of mine are closer to that than I thought. Who would have expected that, I still feel it is a new technology.

On a more practical note, do not forget that hard drives of all kinds die, too. It seems to me much sooner than 50 years. Make multiple back-ups.
n80,

You caught me with $39 as I was writing from memory. However, I am quite sure it was more than $39 in my case and I honestly think it was somewhere close to $80. I did install it on more than one computer so maybe that is the difference. In any case, I think it was worth $80 that, now I know, I might have not even paid.

At the same time, I would like to emphasize the last paragraph in sbank's post above. Metadata gets messy. Album artist is really important one. Put some name you know album as. Let's say, Willie Nelson. As album artist, make sure you put Willie Nelson and check it is on every song. That way, when you look for Willie Nelson, it will show up in Willie Nelson folder regardless of the fact that each song on that album is sang by Willie Nelson and someone else. I am not explaining it that clearly, but listen to sbank and do yourself a huge favor by fixing metadata while ripping. In case you do listen to classical, too, brace for impact. Metadata scavenged from the Internet is a total jungle. Eventually, I rewrote each and every of them in some way that would be later easier to figure out what is what. For example, just getting them from the Internet put two Mozart Requiems (different performances) together as one album, etc. You may not notice it initially, but at the moment you do you will not be happy.
n80,

I have ripped pretty much everything in iTunes and it works, but it is not as great as it could be when it comes to metadata. On the other hand, I am quite obsessive about that so it may not be of any problem for you.

After years of doing everything (ripping-wise) through iTunes, I bought dB-Poweramp and am happy I did. For $80, it does whatever I need and then some. And it does not ask me if I want to update it every time I open it. dB-Poweramp is a breeze when converting files from whatever to whatever, except for DSD. I know nothing about free software, but this works great.

In your case, first rip everything as AIFF. Along the way, make sure to copy files on a separate hard drive or two. You can put metadata in iTunes or in (in my case) dB-Poweramp. Most of the time, it will find it for you but sometimes it is not that correct. I am not sure about iTunes, but dB-Poweramp can look it up online for you. Results may be iffy, but if you are not too picky...

I am not sure what the problem with iTunes embedding the cover art in the file may be, but I have never lost it during conversion.

Once you have everything on that separate hard drive, convert it FLACs, Apple Losless, whatever you like, and store it separately. Then you can play all you want. As many times as you want. dB-Poweramp does preserve all the data, including cover pictures, as far as I could see. No need to think too hard about it.

I would suggest you keep AIFF on your computer and use it for that DAC, stationary system, and loading your iPhone.

If your portability includes a car, especially anything relatively new, you may want to remember where you put that FLAC hard drive. Most of the cars I have tried do not play AIFF from the attached storage device. They will all play it from a connected iPhone, though. At the same time, it seems that FLAC became an accepted standard. I tried plain 16/44.1 FLACS and 24/192 and it always worked. Your car may vary, of course but this is the general direction things may be going these days. You can load all 150 CDs on an SD card/jump drive, stick it in the car, and never think about what song you have on your iPhone or not.

In summary, I have iTunes with AIFF that I use only for loading my SONY server (that will switch to FLAC soon). I have dB-Poweramp to convert almost (not DSD) all I have to FLAC. I have all of that in FLAC that I use for loading Walkman (digital one), and that I have put in cars.

When comparing AIFF and FLAC at home, I have never found any difference. Cars do quite well with MP3, if you want to save even more space. In fact, I have a feeling they are tuned for that.