Can anyone tell me about the Proceed PAV good /bad

John, thanks for the info, I will try some of the things you suggested but I really want to get an AI preamp. I am trying to convince my sig. other that my current pre is no good with my system. hehe

John, I didn't know what the proceed PAV was. As to the Audio Expressions preamp the company used to be known as YS Audio. They have been selling these on audigon and ebay for $400. They are pretty well made. No ciruit boards all pt to pt. with silver core wire. They sound pretty good but it doesn't seem to work as well in my system as my CJ PV4 did. My system used to be dead quiet when idling now I have hiss and buzz that is caused by the preamp because when I discnnect the RCAs the hiss and buzz go away.I am not sure why it is doing this. I was considering the AI because I have heard that it matches well with SS amps.

John, the buzz and hiss go away when I disconnect the RCAs from the output of the preamp to the amp. I didn't have this problem with my Conrad Johnson PV4 and now I do. All of my power chords and cable lines run through a line conditioner.

John, thank you for the second opinion lol. by the way what would you recommend around 700-800 used. I have been considering an AI M3 but I don't need a phono stage but L1s are hard to find. I also was considering going back to conrad johnson something like a PV10AL, or maybe an AR LS2.