Mike & Joe: I always find this kind of stuff interesting. One thing that you forgot to mention was what cable you used to link between the Delta and Alpha ? In my experience, simply changing that cable could make a noticeable difference in percieved sonics. Sean > |
Stock CAL tubes-garbage! My alpha came with cheap chinese tubes, try upgrading to anything respectable and you will instantly notice a change. |
Well, as I basically agree with Michael 100%, there is not much I can add other than to say that I had a good time taking part in this test. Michael is a great guy, and really knows what he is talking about.
Both players I feel represent good sounding digital. Not the best attainable, but probably as good as the non - exotic players.
I think Michael and I are quite similar in that we are both audio cheapskates, proof that one doesn't need to spend crazy money to obtain good sound. It seems as if we both gravitate to products which offer a lot of sound for not all that much money. As stated in the heading, the HomeGrown Audio Silver Lace cable really proved to be a factor in the comparison. At just above entry level prices, I honestly believe that it delivers reference cable sonics. I just don't understand how an interconnect could ever sell for more than maybe $300 - $500, but that's just me.
Based on the above comments from Sean and Elevick, there may be some room to further improve on the CAL, which would definitely be interesting. Perhaps I am wrong, but I believe Michael may have tried different tubes in the DAC. |
Hey Mike,
Great CD player comparison. As a former CAL Delta/Alpha owner, I do agree with you and also Joe that the CAL does seem to excel in higher frequency energy/sparkle. They also throw a very wide sound stage. Both of these qualities matches very well with the type of music genre such as U2.
I never listend to the Music Hall before, but I surmise the Music Hall might fair a bit better compared to the CAL if you were listening to some classical or jazz.
To add to what Sean was saying, besides the digital cable between the trans and dac that is a big factor, what powercords were used? Also, didn't you buy some NOS from Upscale not too long ago?
Ed
ps, glad you got the AP home. |
I went all out to see just how good the Delta-Alpha I've owned for seven years can get, Mullard tubes, Orchid balanced digital cable, Shunyata King Cobra V-1 on Delta, and a Cobra on the Alpha, this setup has really shined quite well, and even if I change front ends, I'm keeping the Cal stuff, it's that good. |
Thanks for the feedback.
The cable between the Delta and Alpha is a bettercables 0.5m balanced cable. And yes, I do have Mullards for the Alpha but I left them out for two reasons: 1) The stock tubes provide a better reference point for most people with Alpha's, and 2) I didn't notice much improvement with the Mullards on my system. The Delta and Alpha both have Virtual Dynamics P3 power cords. The Music Hall used a Homegrown Audio power cord. We did not investigate changing power cords.
And Joe, thanks for spending the time with me on Saturday to do this test.
Michael |
Nice review guys. I bet it was an enjoyable Saturday!
While I have no experience with the Cal Audio, I do with the Music Hall (currently). For it's cost, it is a tough act to beat. Besides it sounding very good with redbook, it's the HDCD that really makes me go "Wow". Until the DVD/SACD stuff works it's way out, I won't own a CDP unless it has HDCD capability. It really makes the Music Hall that much more of a bargain. Gotta change the PC on it though...
Regards,
Matty |
You cant help but notice, at least to a causual reader that many of the golden oldies can provide a run for the money with a lot of the new designs. |
Matty, I feel the same way about my HDCD upgraded Alpha WOW! |
I have owned well over a dozen different CAL DAC's. All i can say is that none of them sounded the same, even when taking tubes from one and putting them into another DAC and using the same transport / digital cable / power cords feeding them. I guess it just boils down to the difference in parts tolerance. This happens when you have ANY product mass produced.
As to the one Alpha that i hand picked out of the bunch, i tried a few different tubes in it and found that some Russian tubes gave me what i was looking for. As to a Sigma that i have, which is phenomenally rich and sensual sounding, one ( and i do mean ONE ) OEM Chinese tube worked best in it. I tried a lot of other tubes in it ( several different OEM's, Mullard's, BriMar's, etc... ) and that one specific tube really sounded far better than the others. Don't ask me what is so special about that one tube, cuz i don't know.
When it comes to tubes, you've either got magic or you don't. When you get it, you'll know it. That's my story and i'm stickin' to it : ) Sean > |
So what they say is true. High end audio is all smokes and mirrors; hocus-pocus. |