Cable upgrades


Happy Holidays to all!

I’m reconfiguring my system and am interested in upgrading my interconnects and possibly my speaker cables, and I was wondering if you could make some recommendations.

I was running Audio Sensibility Impact SE XLR between my Benchmark DAC3 HGC (as a DAC/pre) and my Benchmark AHB2 power amp.  The amp is running bi-wired Kimber Cable 8TC (I think that’s the model #) to a pair of ATC SCM40 tower speakers.  In this setup the bass is tight and the mids are clean - overall I’m quite happy - but sometimes I feel, for my ears, I’d love a bit more openness / brightness in the higher end.

My questions are: would improved XLR interconnects help to open up the top end a bit, without being harsh, and perhaps increase the dimensionality of the soundstage?  Or would I be better off starting with upgrading the speaker cables?  I’ve been looking at the Cardas Parsec level of cable, and could perhaps stretch to the Clear line, pending your recommendations.

Also, one other question: pending the possible move to 2 AHB2s (in mono-block configuration), do both XLR interconnects have to be the same length?  If not, would it cause any timing issues between, say, a 2' XLR and a 6'?

I’d appreciate any guidance.  Many thanks in advance.

Best, JAMES

jimboman

Showing 8 responses by mclinnguy

@jimboman 

I see that- I don't know what happened, I thought I went through the whole thread this morning but I didn't see those posts... strange- I feel like an idiot, and I'm sure I look like one too 🤪

Anyway good news. Strange how the "low range" needed repairing- any idea how old they were? I guess that is why they are getting away from solder and are using high force clamping.  I think you will recoup the $150 will that bill of authenticity and as someone posted before: "a clean bill of health" 

Now we are interested to hear how that bass compares to how they were before 😉

@audphile1

In my experience the Silver Ref II work best between source and preamp, with Matrix Ref II or Absolute Copper between preamp and amp. That allows for some of the not so great attributes of silver ref to be balanced out by the copper downstream

That is so weird- good timing with that post as I just did this last night!

I have Silver Ref.II from my DAC to my Marchand, and Absolute between the Marchand and the high channel Apollon amp (no pre)

I just flipped them yesterday for the first time, and yeah, it was not as good. I am still trying to put my finger on why; the detail was still there, but it was not as open- like more detail in the body, but not as much extension. I wish I had another absolute I could plug in place of the Silver Ref to see if that is better or worse?

Have you tried absolute/absolute source/pre/amp- ? 

Just caught this thread, interesting! 

Just heard back from the seller.  He does not want to offer a refund.  He figures I just don't like the cable, so I can simply resell it.  I told him that the problem is the cable doesn't work as it should.  And therefore, I can't resell it, in good faith.

I also suggested that if I send it to Cardas and they determine it's faulty or fake, then I'd have to pursue a fraud claim.  Although, that's probably not gonna bear much fruit.  So I asked him again for a refund, and offered to cover the cost of return shipping.  We'll see what he comes back with.  My guess is he won't comply.

I'd send it to Cardas, as many have suggested, but my gut is that it's not counterfeit, but rather, old, and perhaps damaged in some way.  And by the time I pay for shipping, validation, re-termination (assuming it's okay...which doesn't make sense, given its sonic signature), shipping back, duty/taxes/brokerage fees etc -- just so I can resell it -- it's doubtful if it would be worth my time.

It's tough for us being across the border- I bought a cable and recently returned it direct from a manufacturer with a 30 day return policy, and it still cost me over $100 in shipping/duties/taxes, and that is with them substantially de-valuing the product for customs purposes! There must be a way to claim the taxes back if it is returned, but is it worth my hassle? There wasn't even an option in the customs docs for "returned product" so I checked off the "warranty/repair" option when sending it back, so hopefully there isn't another broker charge on their end I will have to pay for as well. 

I am curious as heck to investigate who this might have been you purchased this from- shows pretty bad if you are confronted as possibly selling a counterfeit product, and not giving someone their money back. Myself, I would absolutely refund the money and take the product back as opposed to having that bad feedback and not being able to sleep knowing you ripped someone off, whether it was known or not- but from your response above when the person was confronted it almost seems like they knew. If they said "just resell it", essentially pass the problem onto someone else, that shows alot about their integrity, or lack of it. For sure I would follow up with this person if it turns out to be a fake, and provide the necessary feedback so the next purchaser is made aware of that possibility from this seller. 

Update us when you hear- I am dying to find out! 

Amazing, isn't it? There will probably be many who claim you are hearing things, just ignore them, because the rest of us know the truth. And it'll sound even better in a few weeks. 

Now, did you just say you have OEM power cords on your other components? 😳

I hear ya, it takes time, for me many years to finally get every piece upgraded, and when it is done start all over upgrading again. Part of the fun though.

There are many in here who have responded already who have plenty more experience cable swapping and upgrading than me, so they will chime in regarding whether it is better to stick to one brand, or mix them up for different flavours. But you have 2 of the most important components covered.

It is nice to just skip the lower end power cables and jump right up to the thousand dollar ones (+), as that makes a more memorable impact (as you just witnessed) but I don’t think it’s a bad idea to find some used Audio Sensibility statement’s for example on CanuckAudio at a good price in the mean time as you will most likely be able to sell them for what you paid for them, as they hold their value well and are popular in Canada, and it helps train your ears and keep you satisfied for short time periods. Decisions decisions. In the mean time enjoy re-discovering all those tunes you thought you knew well. 😎