Buying new vinyl?


Hi,
I know this touch has been discussed for some tome, bit the situation might have changed and I'm just getting into vinyl as I can't stand digital anymore. I thought it was just a matter of getting a good dac but I changed my mind when I tried one. It still sounded digital.

I see that new vinyl is being sold but some claim that Waxtime for instance is simply producing vinyl from CD's. Has the situation changed? Are there any places online to buy vinyl produced from the old analogue masters?
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Showing 3 responses by whart

Buy old pressings. There is a sweet spot before too much electronic gimmickry in the studio (and in the instruments themselves unless you are listening to electronic music) created an unnatural glaze. Many of these older pressings sound far more visceral than the "audiophile" re-do's. You have to do your due diligence but the cost of your time and effort will be rewarded and many of these records can be had cheaply if you know what to look for and have the ability to effectively clean the records.
PS: a lot of the audiophile remasters -not all- sound brighter and less of a piece than the original pressings. Whether that is a function of modern taste, the desire for more "detail" at the expense of cohesiveness or compensation for tape aging or other source-related issues, I don't know. But don't assume a fancy recut betters a prosaic original or early press.
Scvan- I have no dogma in the fight over digital v analog, but I don't think that Beatles' stereo release was well received for a variety of reasons (the more recent mono set was). I bought one record from the stereo release- Revolver- and it was flat sounding (i.e. sterile and lifeless) and uninvolving. That said, there are plenty of good records on vinyl that came from digital masters (Alison Krauss' 'Live' on MoFi is a nice record) or were remixed and used digital processing to good effect (Tull's Benefit always sounded murky to me, but the re-do a couple years ago really improved the sound- different mix, and digital processing).
The problem that I have encountered is that alot of new releases are of unknown provenance- there is no disclosure requirement on remasters as to source, and even the marketing hype about 'taken from original analog tapes' isn't necessarily a guarantee. Whether it is all analog or not should not matter if the record sounds good, but the reality is, alot of the reissues on vinyl are pretty mediocre sounding. I assume this is because they were mastered from a digital file or the source used wasn't that great to begin with- the problem is, we just don't know until we hear it.
(Not speaking to what Chad does in Kansas, but there are labels that are known for being very hit or miss as to SQ). This means that the uninformed buyer gets jammed or is disappointed- what's the big deal about vinyl, they wonder? I can't tell you how many times I've replaced a record of unknown provenance with an early pressing- often nothing fancy, with dramatic improvements in sound quality.
It is something anybody can assess on a case by case and record by record basis- you can hear and decide pretty quickly if the record sounds more 'real' or more 'reproduced.' (No 'golden ears' required). The downside is, one can spend a fair amount of money having to buy multiple pressings of the same record just to find the one that sounds more like real music, and less like a "canned" reproduction. Whether that is purely an artifact of digital processing, or bad mastering, I don't know.