BS meter is pegged!


I was reading about a music streamer from a latest Stereophile review and what was posted in the review had my BS meters pegged. I'm from the high tech industry with friends that work at Intel labs and friends that work for ARM computers and they haven't heard of some of these things that were posted. Maybe we can get clarification on these items so they don't sound so far fetched and the specifics posted in the review tainted the reviewers judgement IMO.

1) The review states this piece uses "a cpu that's highly prioritized for audio playback only ensuring highly optimized sound quality". I asked around if somebody is making a specific CPU for audio playback only. You know the Intel/AMD fabs that make cpu's make millions of them at a time, not 10-1000 custom cpus. Even when you look at the ARM cpus, none of them are built specifically for audio. There are millions of servers in the world that do database work for example that no cpu maker is building a specific cpu for database only applications. If there is a small company that are creating this kind of cpu, what kind of OS will run on it? This piece runs Roon so it has to be a somewhat generic cpu with a generic Linux OS running on it.

2) the review states: this unit "it plays live with no other processes running in parallel. as far as we know, unlike any other streamer on the market, this streamers cpu plays directly and live from the kernel without any processing or lag." Meter is pegged now. NO OS will run only 1 process at a time without hundreds of other system processes running in parallel or in the background. Using Unix/Linux, the OS is always in a flux state moving data around in its caches, in and out of memory, doing read a head, swapping, paging, etc... And these system processes are a good thing to keep the system stable and running efficiently. 

3) this piece uses "new and faster enhanced memory". Meter is pegged again. During the last 2 decades using Linux servers and over 2 decades before that using Sun and IBM UNIX servers, I have never had the option of buying enhanced memory. I made a couple of calls and asked if they had any enhanced memory that they could sell me and they had no clue what I was talking about. Everybody can get fast memory but "enhanced"?

4) "the whole device plays 1 song directly from RAM". All linux OSs do this, you cannot go from any cache or ssd/hdd directly out of the computer, the data has to be read into ram 1st.If the system is paging, this data might be deleted from RAM and then have to reread into RAM before sending to a dac. I used many large PCIE cache cards to hold large amounts of data (used it as a database cache) but that cached data had to be moved from this fast cache to ram before sending out to the dac.

Most of the time, audio reviewers get psyched up when they hear new acronyms or a magical cpu or enhanced memory that taints their judgement. For example, this reviewer at the end stated "never before have I reviewed a stand-alone streamer/server so accomplished in the hardware department". 

Maybe somebody could clarify some of this up for me/us in the audiophile community.

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@cleeds. I would love to be tucked in and read a bedtime story. laugh but Devinplombier has a great point. Audio is filled with this fancy language to help sell it's products.

Here is an example from a Power Cable manufacturer--"X company proprietary Kinetic Phase Inversion Process includes four days of continuous KPIP v2™ processing which refines conductor metals at a molecular level. This dramatically reduces burn-in time and significantly improves sonic performance, delivering a relaxed and life-like presentation. When compared to the original process, KPIP v2™ represents a dramatic performance upgrade on par with a component-level upgrade"

What a load of crap--They are saying that using this Power Cable is like a component level upgrade.. Come on. Do Audiophiles really believe this?? Please show me some proof that this PC makes a sonic difference. 

Yes, I have experimented with Power Cables and found zero sonic impact. I even ran an experiment using ultra sensitive photon counting equipment--The "expensive" PC made NO difference. Just admit it that the audio world is surrounded by this bunk language used to sell it's products. 

 

Cheers,

Why the attacks? Just because you know I am correct, you come and insult me, real classy..

 

Cheers,

@cleeds

This is from another discussion..

Spectral results--Each count was 12 hours. High resolution gamma spectroscopy using NIM’s. The NIST certified rate is 20.030 CPS for the Region of Interest (ROI). The region of interest is approximately 661.7 keV.

Results--As you can see, the filtered data is very close to the "True" count rate as per NIST certification. The filtration costs > $50,000 and cleans up the AC power before it powers the sensitive electronics. The crystal operates at - 200 degrees Celsius and is ultra sensitive to electronic noise.

Using a Nordost Power Cable made no statistically relevant difference as compared to a standard cable.

I am not sure what this means on the sonic front but if a Power Cable made NO difference on highly sensitive equipment, how could it make a difference on a CD transport.

 

      Counts per Second (CPS) (Unfiltered)   Counts per Second (CPS) (Filtered)   Counts per Second (CPS)(Unfiltered) (Stock)   Counts per Second (CPS) (Unfiltered)(Nordost)
                   
Count #1   20.645   20.121   20.643   20.693
Count #2   20.711   20.154   20.702   20.701
Count #3   20.689   20.101   20.698   20.692
Count #4   20.705   20.098   20.702   20.712