Brinkmann vs TW Acustic


Was wondering how these two German manufacturers compare.
Bardo vs Raven One
Oasis vs Raven GT
LaGrange vs Raven AC
Is there a unique sound signature that goes up with the range? Which is a better value? (i.e. maybe the Oasis is better than the Raven AC)
Have heard both in show conditions, but could not pin-point their contribution to the end result as the rest of the system was unfamiliar as well.
iaxelrod
Dgad, stop it! You are feeding the narcissist! Did you really type "g-d" above. So the "-" should be an "o"? So Snidetax, I mean sissytax, whatever-tax is a GOD!!!

Holy cow, let me think about this for a minute... But yet you say he is not successful. Could you say more on this subject? Enquiring minds want to know...

Dgad, please take no offence to the elaboration of your post. Just trying to take the ball and run with it.

You nailed it with the idea of how this is a forum killer. We are talking about niche consumer electronics. Most of the world does not give a flying F&^k about this stuff.

Buy an ipod.

If people can not exchange information in a reasonable manor here on audiogon the whole genre will die that much faster. Maybe that is the goal if you are a deadbeat troll.

The good news, I think, is that people can see through the BS. But who knows.

Off to live life, this is just a hobby.
Taudio
Well said.
Boys are boys and we must play with our toys but it would't hurt to play as sensible and mature adults...
My apologies for the pontification...
Dear syntax / Thomas,

No TW turntable is neutral sounding. Based on some design error many internal influences in the tracking method according to any of the cartridge used resist.
Can you elaborate, please?

P.S. Other paragraphs of your post look as if you just want to degrade TW turntable owners. Have TW or have TW owner pestered you? Please let us know.
Dear Pani: +++++ " we seem to use the word "neutral" far too liberally... " +++++

I think that thr problem is because as with almost any other subject in audio almost all us audiophiles and AHEE members have no refrence/standards have no " common bias " and that's why " neutral " is so diferent on many of us about its grade.

With out that " common bias " it has no sense to speak about something " neutral " when two opinions comes from different " sources ", example: one from a SS based system and the other from a tube based system.

Which could be a neutral reference a neutral standard?, well certainly live music but even here live acoustical music has its own " natural colorations " but these " natural colorations " for me is my neutral standard because I don't know any other reference that can compare against it for that " natural color, " natural agresiveness " so low low distortions, so endless dynamics with the wider frequency range we can attain and with so that " natural power "/precense only live music has.
I think that we can considerer it as a very good alternative as a " common bias " /Refernce for " neutrality " and from here try to make a gradation of neutrality on what we are listening through our each one system.

Regards and enjoy the music,
R.