Brinkmann vs TW Acustic

Dgad, stop it! You are feeding the narcissist! Did you really type "g-d" above. So the "-" should be an "o"? So Snidetax, I mean sissytax, whatever-tax is a GOD!!!

Holy cow, let me think about this for a minute... But yet you say he is not successful. Could you say more on this subject? Enquiring minds want to know...

Dgad, please take no offence to the elaboration of your post. Just trying to take the ball and run with it.

You nailed it with the idea of how this is a forum killer. We are talking about niche consumer electronics. Most of the world does not give a flying F&^k about this stuff.

Buy an ipod.

If people can not exchange information in a reasonable manor here on audiogon the whole genre will die that much faster. Maybe that is the goal if you are a deadbeat troll.

The good news, I think, is that people can see through the BS. But who knows.

Off to live life, this is just a hobby.

Iaxelrod, good luck with your decision. After getting back in to vinyl very few CD are played around here any more.

And for over four years the Raven AC has worked great for me. No, its not for sale.

Sunnyboy, what do you think? Hasn't high end audio always been contentious?

In this case it seem like there is a high level of narcissism in play. There is the self proclaimed expert who has some history with a product (a consumer product) where some expectation was not met, couldn't figure it out, had a bad system match, just had a bad day - who knows. There could have been an interaction with the manufacturer, a distributor ect. that this person did not like. He seem miffed. And thus if anyone else finds redeeming qualities with this product we get these posts with narcissistic rage. Why, because he (the narcissist) can't be wrong.

Just saying...

Suteetat, great post. On point.

PS has anybody ever tried Sutherland Timeline on recording cutting machine? I wonder if those machines will even past the test? Or whatever stamper making machine or whatnots?

Wouldn't it be naïve think that the music on vinyl has not been altered or even tweaked during the whole process of capturing and mixing the recording and making the record?

Not to say all vinyl has that flaw, but you have to think that a lot if not most vinyl is affected to some degree that way.

Isn't the making of a record like making sausage? You might be better off not knowing goes in to it.

Dev, what speakers do you use?

Pani, another thing about music and music reproduction is the sense that the sound source is something vibrating/resonating. A real thing. For example on an acoustic guitar after being struck the strings vibrate and the body of the guitar resonates along with the strings.

The thing about listening to vinyl that I love is that on decent to excellent recordings there is always that sense something is vibrating/resonating - musical instruments. And on good recordings it is instruments in space.

In contrast, red book CD does not give me that some sense.

That is not to minimize prat in any way. The goal for me is to have as much of everything that I can get and just enjoy the music that is there.

Suteetat, good work on speed, timing, Timeline discussion.

To any one with a Raven AC or AC3. A couple years ago I had a hard time dialing in the VTF/VTA for the best sound. After double checking for level I realized that while level was fine the right front footer was a bit loose. Loose is not quite right, there was not as much weight on that footer.

After adjustment so that the TT weight was more evenly distributed among all three footers the issue went away. This adjustment has been required twice in almost four years.

FYI