Worth noting that I use DSP heavily all the time and my modest older minipc I run teh core/server on still does quite well, however fact is it does peg the CPU frequently which clearly indicates more CPU will only help. From what I read I will likely upgrade to newer Mac mini at some point as a cost effective solution that should be up to the task fully.
Brain Farts w/ Roon Nucleus
I have an original Roon Nucleus with a SSD drive in it. Around 3GB of music. Together with Tidal, Roon tells me that I have 2039 Artists, 4312 Albums, 61239 tracks, and 136 composers. That is likely more than most users, but not as many as some of you, so I have read.
On a fairly regular basis, Roon has these brain farts moments, lasting 10-15 minutes, where I get the twirling Roon Icon and the system is shut down from playback. It always eventually comes back. I don’t know the technical term, but I think it is a resort, reorganizing, re-something to the whole data base of music. It always happens at the most inopportune time. Roon online forum has never come clean for me with an answer/fix.
I have revamped my Ethernet cabling and both the Roon Nucleus and the DAC/Streamer are mainlined, so I know it is not network drop outs.
I’ve read that others have had a similar problem, but never read a solution. I have been looking into several angles to stop this. (1) Upgrade to the Roon Nucleus Titan. (2) Checking out to see if some other Roon Ready Server is a better functioning piece of equipment, like the Innous.
I have two DACs/Servers in the house - BlueSound & dCS Lina - and they both have the same brain farts with Roon.
I really like the functionality of Roon on the Nucleus. My issue is not sound quality of Roon, it is the performance. I must admit, that in all of my reading I have not been able to compare the functionality of a Roon Ready Innous vs. Roon Nucleus, or any other Streamer that folks mention here on the forum.
Any thoughts would be appreciated. Thanks in advance.
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The fact that Roon runs on so many devices both commercial and specialized for audio enthusiasts is perhaps its greatest feature as well as one of its biggest burdens because clearly performance can vary widely depending on what devices are used and there are so many to choose from at all price points. In my case, with the devices I use, things work very well for the amount of money I have invested. Caveats; 1) if vendor support is a key issue for you there may be better options out there. 2) Given teh range of possible devices used, performance will vary widely. In general, as with most any computer hardware, you should get what you are willing to pay for. 3) Roon could do a much better job providing more clarity on what to expect with various commonly used devices. It would probably require a bigger investment by Harmon to be able to provide that information reliably but I think that would help elimiate a lot of angst with users who can only find out for sure via trial and error themselves. More technically savvy users will be better equipped to navigate the journey effectively than many.
One final note, as with any computer application, when things head south, a reboot may be needed to clear things up. With Roon that mean a reboot of Roon endpoint devices as well as the device the Core/server runs on. Sometimes router and any other devices involved with internet access. If you have not rebooted all those together ever or for a long time, worth a shot to see if it helps. A lot of physical devices and services are involved with any network application especially when internet connections and performance of remote services at the other end that users have no control over (Like Qobuz, etc.) come into play. THings only perform as well as the weakest link in teh chain at any particular moment. Roon is an awesome app with many unique and valuable features, but those with low tolerance for technical complexity are probably better served using other vendor specific streaming solutions. If only one could have it all and it always worked perfectly and didn’t cost very much as well. A perfect world would be very nice indeed!
I have been a senior technical engineer/architect for a major financial services provider for many years. I also have a technical background in digital signal processing. So ai am used to this kind of thing and eat it up. Maybe when I retire sometime soon I will offer up my services to Harmon to see if I might be able to help take Roon to another level. That would be a fun thing for me to do in retirement but on a very limited part time basis only. Who know. Lots of fun things to do in retirement including all the usual audiophile trappings.
Cheers!
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I can assure you that at 1:00 a.m., with a bottle of Malbec on board and a head full of indica, most users (particularly myself) have a low tolerance for technical complexity, whatever their background. |
@pvnasby for sure for most everyone I know would feel similar. But since when did technical challenges stop audiophiles in their pursuit of excellence? We are too awesome for that, right? Tweaking is our middle name! Roon is just another thing to tweak as needed. Or not. To each their own. Many ways to skin a cat. Roon is awesome and worth the effort IMHO. You will learn a lot along the way. I know I have and am a better audiophile now for doing it.
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@mapman , Truly. I really loved Roon. Thought it was the greatest thing since sliced bread until the 14th time I was fairly squiffed and got the dreaded “can’t locate Roon Core” error. This on a wired network with a Node 2i. Was considering getting a Nucleus but now I’m feeling some Innuos. In years past i would have been happy to tinker with it. Now I’m getting olde and cranky and I just want stuff to work. |
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