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Brain Farts w/ Roon Nucleus

I have an original Roon Nucleus with a SSD drive in it.  Around 3GB of music.  Together with Tidal, Roon tells me that I have 2039 Artists, 4312 Albums, 61239 tracks, and 136 composers.  That is likely more than most users, but not as many as some of you, so I have read.
 

On a fairly regular basis, Roon has these brain farts moments, lasting 10-15 minutes, where I get the twirling Roon Icon and the system is shut down from playback.  It always eventually comes back. I don’t know the technical term, but I think it is a resort, reorganizing, re-something to the whole data base of music.  It always happens at the most inopportune time. Roon online forum has never come clean for me with an answer/fix.

I have revamped my Ethernet cabling and both the Roon Nucleus and the DAC/Streamer are mainlined, so I know it is not network drop outs.

I’ve read that others have had a similar problem, but never read a solution.  I have been looking into several angles to stop this.  (1) Upgrade to the Roon Nucleus Titan. (2) Checking out to see if some other Roon Ready Server is a better functioning piece of equipment, like the Innous.

I have two DACs/Servers in the house - BlueSound & dCS Lina - and they both have the same brain farts with Roon.  

I really like the functionality of Roon on the Nucleus.  My issue is not sound quality of Roon, it is the performance.  I must admit, that in all of my reading I have not been able to compare the functionality of a Roon Ready Innous vs. Roon Nucleus, or any other Streamer that folks mention here on the forum.

Any thoughts would be appreciated.  Thanks in advance.

pgaulke60

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sns
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I have no issues with Roon other than occasional Roon Remote freezing, this on cheap tablet via wifi off whole house router. My Roon setup is on segregated audio streaming network (1gb), all hard wired, longest ethernet cable (all AQ Vodka) 1.5M. Roon runs on two streamers, custom build for Core, Sonore OpticalRendu for Endpoint, Core streamer powerful processor, enterprise RAM, Euphony OS (extremely optimized audio only OS) always using less than 1% on 7 cores, doesn't matter what Roon processes running. Also have more than 3K cd rips on NAS, streams SQ equal to rips. 

 

Also have more optimizations, these for sound quality rather than processor or network  and streamer speed, stability, reliability. My take is you need this level of optimization for use with large libraries via Roon. The proprietary music player apps work better since they're optimized for those streamers, Roon is universal app so one should expect variable speed, stability, reliability, Roon can't account for the extreme variability in streaming setups.

 

 

sns
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Another possible issue some having with Roon may be due to the constant updates  being made. I've no doubt, just like with operating systems, each update may be one step closer to making our present streamers obsolete. 

 

As for the updates, some claim they can hear changes in sound quality after a single update. I've never heard such a thing, now perhaps there may be a slight change after cumulative number of updates, can't say I've ever heard any changes I could confidently attribute to Roon.

sns
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Prior to my present relatively sophisticated streaming setup I used a series of modified Mac Minis, the last ran just fine with Roon and huge library of rips and streams. I was running a stock cpu, both Core and Endpoint on the mini. I did have a quality network at that time, all wired, 1.5M longest LAN/ethernet cable, 500mb service at that time. So streamer nothing exceptional, network has always been optimized and stable since running Roon.

sns
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Seems you've had some good advice. RAM is important with large libraries and Roon complex interface, I use enterprise level RAM in my custom server as  its extremely reliable and less prone to errors. I also run throttled here, no dsp, volume leveling as well.

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