@lanx0003 -3db is the xo point between two bands, not the slope. I would have said 3db/oct.
Bookshelf speaker recommendations
I am in the need for some recommendation for bookshelf speakers in a small room(10x10). I currently have the Paradigm Mini Monitor v3 and for the price are good sounding speakers but they are way too midbass heavy like boxy sounding. A few options I was looking was the Dynaudio Audience 42 or 52 or even the Contour 1.1. I listening to everything but mostly rock and country. Every once in a while I like listening to vocals and acoustic instruments.
This will be powered by an Acurus A150 amplifier with a Rotel RC-995 preamp. My source is strictly lossless files and some streaming.
My budget is around 1.2k.
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Thanks for all the responses. @deep_333 Thanks for the recommendation. I have been using my media player and luckily it has a 20 band EQ. The only frequency I need to cut is between 200hz and 300hz maybe up to 350hz. Streamers with that capability is a plus. There is so much I can position the speakers. |
Again, thanks for all the responses. @deep_333 Very interesting data you have posted. Maybe true with pure sine wave sweep but with music it is irrelevant. I have used many bookshelf and even a few floorstanders and didn't have this issue. In fact, most of data I had all had the opposite effect but it was usually at 140hz at about 12db null. Not with the Paradigm. |
@panzrwagn Thanks for the response. Most of the recommendation you mention has been addressed already. The room has acoustic panels with 2" thick. Both on the first reflection, rear, and behind the speakers. The speakers are 1/4(about 1.5ft) almost 1/3 into the room. The listening position is about 2/3 from the front wall or 1/3 from the rear wall(7 ft from the front wall or 3ft from the back). I totally agree that the room dimensions is the worse for room nodes but it is the only room in the house that I can use for listening. It is the hardest to correct but not impossible. As I mention earlier in the thread, I have gone through many speakers and mostly does not have this issue. Most of the speakers I tried were front ported except two, the Paradigm Mini Monitors v3 and the Energy Veritas 2.2. The Energy Veritas had a different sound then the mini monitors but were not on a proper stand. I will use my room acoustic software(Smaart not REW) to see my current response. |
@glennewdick Do you have a link to it? There is alot of comparison on YouTube.
@yogiboy Those are nice speakers but really like the SCM11 better for the bigger midbass woofer. Even thought the SCM7 might be more then sufficient for my room, I am a little weary about having too weak of bass. |
@glennewdick Thanks for the link. Nice broad of speaker brand. I have listen to every speakers in a short period of time with headphones. To my ears, I find the Sonus Faber sonetto sounding the best with a true, balance sound. Then again it is a little more then twice my recommended budget.
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@lanx0003 My expectations is high, maybe but a better question should be asked, should I expect to get higher quality sound at a higher price tag? That is where expectations are high also. |
No offense intended. We just happen to see different view point on the matter of what we see a budget set. I only set my budget at 1.2k because I know at that price point wither new or used is a good starting point. Can I go higher on my budget, maybe I would need to hear data to back it up. Don't get me wrong, there are speakers at a higher price tag that sound great but there are also speakers with lower budget that can sound great too. It all come down to subjective. You want a bookshelf speaker that goes low into bass region and there is nothing wrong with that. You just going to have pay the price to achieve that accomplishment. As I mention before, we have different view points of what we want in sound. I personally like speakers to roll off at around 60-70hz at -3db slope. Again no offense taken and enjoy. |
@lanx0003 I know exactly what I am talking about. Like i said earlier post, we seem to interpret data differently. -3db and 3db dip at crossover point is the same thing. If there was a sub which I do would be a xo point just like xo in the speaker. Is there any thing else you want to know? Have a good day |
@garyalex Thanks for the link @grislybutter Interesting link. Thanks! |