Audiofun,
It was told one of the Audio Note DACS was from England..I'm not sure about the other one. It's too bad the processing power necessary for high rez files is beyond the bidat or its mods. I hope one day that John Wright will come out with his own universal DAC because I believe the price and performance would be quite competitive.
The fact that the Playback Design exhibits no pre or post ringing really has me intrigued. It could be a killer. Have you come to a final verdict on the MSB vs. Bidat? |
Thanks Oxia, that made for good reading. I think I will forego the venture into the world of AN after reading that and Vhiners' posts :) |
Here's a good post from an owner of an AN (UK) DAC5, who sold it after trying a Bidat.
http://db.audioasylum.com/cgi/m.mpl?forum=digital&n=64718 |
Thanks so much for the info concerning the Audio Note Dac. Which Audio Note? AN-Japan or AN-England? |
Thanks. I was only aware of Harley's comments. I know several people who have run the Bidat against Audio Note's top of the line DAC of two years ago and they said the Bidat bested it. FWIW. |
Glrtrgi:
The moon, is a nice sounding unit. It is relatively musical and presents the spectra of music top to bottom very well. I do think it sounds a bit 'lite' in the mid range (vocal regions), but not sterile or steely. I would suggest you use a warm sounding pair of interconnects with the unit. It has a sound I characterize with dacs in it's price range. I have noticed you don't really seem to get the weight in the sound (at least to my ears) until you cross the 4.5k to 5k barrier dollar amount.... of course mileage may vary and there are many great dacs out there. I personally would like to try one of the Audio Note kits.
As I have stated before and stand by it 100% the Moon bested the Weiss Minerva, so for $1600.00 retail (I think that is the MSRP) you will have a very very good sounding unit that with some massaging (i.e. correct interconnects, sympathetic preamp) will make beautiful music. |
Vhiner: I have not considered the Berkley, based on friends whose ears I trust implicitly, I was told that if I didn't like the Weiss the Berkly would not do it for me. If I get a chance to audition the Berkley I will of course report on my thoughts, but I have no desire to seek it out. |
Audiofun
Can you post a more detailed explanation of your thoughts on the Moon DAC? I'm looking for a DAC to use for a computer based audio playback system and I am not familiar with any of this Canadian company's products. Thanks. |
I'm particularly eager to hear bout the Playback Design, given the reviews I've read. Have you considered the Berkeley DAC that Robert Harley raved about a while back? I believe it handles hi-rez.
If you haven't heard Shelby Lynne's tribute to Dusty Springfield called "Just a Little Lovin" on Lost Highway records, I recommend it. It was mastered by the legendary audiophile wizard Doug Sax and was recorded on luscious analogue tape. It's great if you like that type of music. |
I'm glad you are enjoying the thread :) I am familiar with Morray James. I bought a pair of his interconnects circa 1999 when he was just getting started and yes they are good. I have not had any of his newer offerings since that time. I might try some of his interconnects.
The MSB is still cooking. I like it...but I want to reserve final judgement for a while (yes I did purchase the unit). Sometimes I think I love it and others I am indifferent or put-off. I have owned other gear that did that good/bad thing while breaking in, but this thing is taking it to another level.
I still have to get the Play Back Design in to listen to. I think I may end up foregoing the PS Audio, ONLY because I am not at all interested in spinning discs and it is designed to work optimally with the PWT, so... I see no point.
I do love the 24/96 through the MSB, I downloaded an album (is it still really an album :) from HDTracks by an artist named Christy Baron. I just kinda happened upon her and I really like her quite a bit. I used to listen to Patty Barber but honestly I got tired of listening to her singing to women...kinda messed up the flow of the music for me so I have been looking for other interesting female vocalists. Suggestions are welcome.
I will follow up with other observations hopefully soon. |
Sorry for all the typos in my previous posting...too much coffee. |
Audiofun,
I missed this thread because it shifted from the old one. It's fascinating and I'm reading it like the latest issue of Stereophile! I'm eager to hear more about the MSB in terms of how it compares to the Bidat. I'm not surprised by what you say by "tube magic." Another friend of mine who has recently modded bidat says he wishes the bidat had a tube output stage because he previously had a DAC which did and said it had a special quality...even though the Bidat bested it.
I just spent several weeks comparing new digital interconnects from Moray James (he assists John Wright with his mods and John uses Moray's calbe to voice his mods) and I want you to know how amazing Moray's latest cable is when used with the Bidat. Several friends have confirmed by impressions of what an amazing difference this RCA digtial cable makes. Since I've had my Bidat upgraded twice (the most recent in November of '09) I can say that the digital cable has as profound an impact as the actual mods done to the unit. Bass is more realistic and FAR more musical. Microdynamics are improved without the slightest grain or "hi fi" sound. I have also switched to a Shunyata Python CX for the power cord and it has also brought out even more of the Bidat magic. I have no financial interest or relationship with either of these companies. If you're interested in reviewing one of Moray's cables, I can pass his email address on to you. |
Hatari: No harm no foul:) Sorry about your' HDD that's a bad feeling. The RS4 is a HOT car!!! |
Audiofun - my reply of many days ago was misconstrued, in no way questioning your motives/experiences. Good on you (and lucky you) to be actually able to try things side by side. I just noticed some "Best" comments by others...which always make me smile (and roll my eyes). ie those that say 997 is the best without having driven a Cayman or other mid-engined sports car (Ferrari) ;). If you've tried them all, then you certainly have an informed opinion. RS4 for me these days, with kids and all.
My hard drive has crashed, an external DAC/mini is starting frustrate me...I may follow your lead, but really to just move to a one-box solution (idiot proof). |
Two things, I mutilated the word 'song' in the earlier post...to early to be typing I guess :) Second, I just fired up the MSB today and I have to say I now know what I heard that caused me to purchase it. Seldom have I heard a product change its strips so much in a 24 hour period.., guess my suspicions about the unit are proven... It is very very very good!!!
I still think the presentation is different from the Bidat and AMR which are very very similar to each other. |
Mattzack2: Well.....lets just say I can't refute your' buyers impression. So far EVERYONE that has heard it on my end of the world has had a really really adverse reaction to it. The MSB unit has been burning in for about a day now and it is good. It is (i think) better than the DCC-1 but it cant compete with the Bidat.
I do however like the unit very much and I am now the new owner, it will take up residence in my bedroom, with the DCC-1 going to the office and the Bidat going to the living room.
I think at this point Im going to try to hear a Music Playback Design gear and then I am finished. I know I LOVED the sound of the AMR 77, but I need to hear the MPD-5.
The MSB is hard to categorize..., but it is detailed like nothing I have heard before. At 3 mintues (3 min exactly) on Renee Maries soung Bolero/Suzanne there is something going on deep deep deep deep in the background I never heard before and the MSB brought it to the forefront (thought still very very hidden).
More to come as I continue listening...
PS>Again, though I am not purchasing the unit the Moon 300D... really really good! |
I just asked the new buyer of my Weiss Dac2 what his initial impression was.
His email reply was 2 words.
" It sucks "
I really was hoping that he would have had better luck with it than I did.
I hope Daniel Weiss gets wind of this. |
I picked the MSB up this morning. It is charging and I will give it a whirl this evening. Stay tuned... "same bat channel same bat time" .... Ok, if you not in your mid 30's or up that probably means nothing to you LOL!!! |
Thanks Heymiker, I may call the guys at GCAudio.com. |
Ok, some thoughts on the Sim Audio 300D... NICE!!! It is acquitting itself very nicely against the DCC-1 at this point. The presentation is not as languid as the Dcc-1 and it doesn't quite have the weight, but I could imagine this dac being teamed with a BAT or Joule pre (had a REX and a Joule Electra LA100 formerly) and sounding awfully awfully good.
I say that because with no tubes at all it is not sterile at all, it is musical and I think that in 1997 or '98 this kind of sound would have been upwards or 5-7k. The minor faults I find are purely by omission and not commission.
Another thing, it has made a believer out of me that USB may be a viable format. Every other USB dac I've heard failed to impress (I'm being nice) though admittedly I have not heard a great deal of USB dacs. This sounds really nice with a cheap over the counter (Best Buy) USB that I picked up tonight on the way home. So... the cable is nothing special, not burned in and it still sounds very good.
I actually found myself wondering what system I might be able to squeeze this unit into, but I have the Bidat for the bedroom, the DCC-1 for the office and the main 2 systems will probably get the AMR/Playback or MSB... GOTTA stop somewhere ;)
I am going to say that anyone who is looking for really good sound for under 2k should at least audition this unit, you may be surprised as I was.... Honestly I didn't really want to be bothered with bringing this one home, as I had so much on my plate what with taking notes on the others and connecting disconnecting...etc.., we've all been there.
More tomorrow, the MSB came, but I wasn't here so I will pick it up tomorrow from the P.O. :(
Regards |
Thanks, I have a feeling your set-up might put mine to shame.
I got my Wireworld Supernova 6 at GCAudio.com (Galen Carol Audio), they can also be had from The Cable Co. It sounds surprisingly good.
Yep, Steve at GNSC is a good guy, I've had the opportunity to deal with him a few times in the past. |
Heymikey: It sounds like you have a nice setup. I met Steve and started dealing with him over 10 years ago when he started GNSC. I was a beta tester for one of his first in-house products...a isolation transformer house in a very attractive sort of on end standing housing. He does great work.
I have wanted to try one of the Wireworld Supernova glass TOS cables, perhaps I will order one. |
I use the Oppo BDP-83 (non-SE version) for blu-ray as well. I don't use it as a cdp (I have a Wadia 860X w/GNSC Statement mods for that), but I do often watch and listen to music concert dvd's & blu-rays. I feed the Oppo's optical digital output into my Weiss Dac2 by way of glass toslink (Wireworld Supernova 6), it sounds much better that way than the Oppo's analog output running into my preamp. I can only imagine how good the Exemplar modded Oppo would be, and blu-ray audio playback through the MSB dac would no doubt be excellent as well. |
I've already been pondering either this unit or the Cambridge Azure 650BD for my Blu-Ray movie watching needs. I rarely spin a disc for music any longer. I buy a disc and immediately rip it to the HDD (soon to be SSDD:).
If I go with the MSB, I will have their proprietary XPORT upgrade added to the deck of choice for SACD/Blu Ray playback through the dac. |
If I might throw another log on the fire, I got the Exemplar moded Oppo 83 in yesterday. It is, of course, a universal player with blu-ray capability. I had already compared it with the original non SE version, and it was quite superior, but this much better regulated version is the best player I have ever heard. Previously, I tried the output of this (cd only) into the Minerva, but the Oppo digital out is not very good. I have yet to try this with the new one.
I should also say that it only had about four hours of breakin last night. The teflon caps would not be anywhere near their best. More to follow, of course.
I would recommend, Audiofun, that you get a listen to this unit and there are many dealers who sell it, but it is under such heavy demand that it may be difficult to get one in your home system. |
Heymikey: Thanks for the post. I do count myself fortunate and yes this fun. The dac I have coming is not a Platinum at the moment, with the whole Plat Dac IV coming out that plan is delayed a bit. I have a MSB Power DAC coming which from what I understand sound very very very similar (this from MSB) if used single ended which is the way I have been testing everything thus far.
I am glad you find the thread interesting.
I will say that the Moon 300D is turning out to be a bit of a surprise. Can't say too much yet, but I will say that cold out of the box I immediately found it (to my ears) superior to the Minerva in overall presentation. Will elaborate further in the coming days. |
Audiofun, you are indeed fortunate to have access to such high end digital gear to audition at home. Count me as a happy Weiss Dac2/Amarra/mac mini owner (at the moment), but I'm enjoying your observations and comparisons. I have a feeling the MSB Platinum dac is going to be hard to top, but you have some other strong contenders. Thanks for the interesting thread. |
Unfortunately the MSB did not show up tonight, but I did receive a Sim Audio Moon 300D dac today. Cold out of the box (sat in my car all day while I was at work) it sounds promising... I am not going to make any real judgments until at least 2 days so as to allow it to come to equilibrium.
It is promising and it was ice-cold. Stand by :) |
Tbg: I don't disagree with what you have just laid out... Which is exactly why I thought it would be cool to do this since I will have all this equipment at my disposal and NO overhead whatsoever. Thus there is no incentive to be anything less than completely open as to what I am experiencing. Heck, if I ever change my mind on some of this gear...guess who may have to pay full retail and then maybe even a surcharge on top of that :)
I know of a reviewer who received an integrated amp from a very famous American manufacturer and he did exactly what you stated. After listening to it, he offered it back to the company and told them I don't think you want me to review this product as it is.
To me, that is a disservice, BUT.., I understand commerce and these situations exist (right or wrong).
This is why I love reading intelligently laid (not referring to my own though I have attempted to be fair and rigorous) reviews on this forum and a few others.
I do believe what you have written has merit. |
As a reviewer, I need to say several things. First, print and electronic magazines need advertising to survive. This was not the case in early subscription magazines like Stereophile and The Absolute Sound. There is an uncomfortable concern by both editors and reviewers in reviewing pieces from advertisers. I have known many instances of pressure from both sides in this relationship but have seldom, if ever, felt such pressure. But do personally know many manufactures and the personal efforts by small ones to make a go of their businesses. Nevertheless, I have felt that there is nothing positive that I can say about a product and simply returned it. Of course, unless the readership could note the list of "returned without review" pieces, they lack this context.
Second, you can learn the personal biases in what reviewers value when listening and key more closely on reviewers who reflect what you think to be important. You also gain familiarity with their equipment in a long review, rather than the often "blows away" etc. evaluations in posts here or elsewhere.
Finally, reviewers have listened to many components and have units for evaluation long enough to optimize them, at least within their rooms. Reviewers' rooms tend to be "above average" rooms.
Nevertheless, some individuals' postings carry more weight than others given their evident passions for what they hear. Reading between the lines, one often knows the poster has a good context for his (or rarely, her) posting and is quite sincere in what they say.
If you want negative and positive reviews in complete disregard to who advertises, you really need to learn to pay for your reviews and seek magazines not accepting advertising. The "internet generations" have learned to expect information at no cost. Lots of luck in getting unbiased information in such a circumstance. |
Thanks Bmckenney: that is my exact goal, to tell the WHOLE story behind a piece of gear, something we don't seem to be able to get from the reviewers. As you stated, with most reviews...everything they listen to sounds good :)
Best regards |
It's good to see people post actual, real world impressions. Some many professionally published reviews say everything sounds great. Keep up the good work of posting some good comparisons. Would love to see more real peoples thoughts on the Ayre USB DAC. |
Levy03: Thanks for appreciating what I am doing for what it is; my opinion on sundry digital gear. Also I am glad you realize that I do not expect my opinion to be chiseled in stone :) Like I said this is about fun and enjoyment, but I also want to truthfully report what I hear in an unbiased and truthful way...which I know will not please everyone. |
no worries Audiofun. i'm looking forward to you're thoughts and see them for what they will be.....your thoughts. it's great that you have an opportunity to do such well controlled comparisons of such cutting edge digital gear. it's even better that you're taking the time to share what *you think and hear*. i for one really appreciate it.
that said. i won't be chiseling your opinions in stone =). no doubt they will be of value but they will always be your thoughts. i'm sure others can/will legitimately hear things differently.
now get busy and don't forget the cables! |
Hatari: This whole thing started out as my quest for (as mentioned above) to find a 24/192 dac that could at LEAST match the sound of my Bidat. This has been friendly (in my opinion) and as the one who started the thread I have to say telling me that I have a 'bias' because I found the Minerva sterile and a-musical is not in keeping with the spirit of the thread. This was to share my quest with others as I knew I would have a lot of gear in my home to test side by side. You seam tp like the DAC 2, I am glad. I OWN the Bidat and the DCC-1, I am shopping for the others. The fact that AMR 77 sounded as fantastic as it did made me think that maybe 24/192 should not be my immediate goal.
As I stated many times before I still have to test the MSB which I should have tomorrow and I will be getting a Playback Design to test at a later date... so I do not understand your entry to this thread.
I do think the Bidat is one of the best dacs extant and so do a great number of people which is why you rarely see them for sale some 10 years after their introduction and then I believe the ones you do see are mostly a result of hard financial times forcing the sale.
As I said earlier I have taken photos of all the gear I have tested in the same rack with the same gear... i.e. I know of what I speak.
I am not selling anything and I work for no-one except my own software company.
Lets keep this fun. I am not saying the Minerva is not amazing for you, I am saying it can not remain in my system.
Please re-read your statement. I am a Porsche fan and owner, I am not super fond of Ferrari's but what if I made a statement that anyone who says that Porsches are not "Fantastic" has a bias....perhaps they don't like Porsches :)
This post is for those interested in my ongoing real-world non-biased (non stock holding status in any of these companies) opinion. And I am going to buy the one that sounds the best to my ears while being honest about what I hear from the others regardless of what the magazine reviewers may have to say ...
Keep'n real |
Take it all with a grain of salt and bias. The minerva is fantastic, anyone saying otherwise has bias of some sort. It's always great to hear those that say what they own is the BEST. I own the DAC2, not saying it's the best, but it is fantastic. Some posters have proclaimed the perfection of their products... |
The Weiss 202 dac and the Weiss Minerva. Europeans are claiming that they hear little benefits in moving from the Minerva to the 202. |
Are you referring to a prototype of the Dac202 or the 777 against the Minerva? |
You should have gotten a good deal on the Minerva as it is replaced by their Dac 202. I heard a prototype at CES versus the Minerva and heard some improvements. We will see whether that holds in my system.
I have often heard people say that they can hardly distinguish their reproduced music from live. As I said, at one time I thought I was close only to realize how far away from real I was when I got a better amp or speakers. I may still be quite distant despite being so impressed with the Mac/Amarra/Firewire/Minerva's realism, but realism is still what thrills me. |
Im glad you like the Weiss, mine is going back in the morning.
Still wondering where you heard the 777 and with what equipment.
Far as walking in a room and having it sound live...I have even read so called golden eared magazine reviewers claim to have thought a quartet was playing at a show only to find gear making the music. Granted this was a while ago and no, I could not for the life of me recall the magazine article, but the fact is I have been fortunate enough to hear systems that good. I believe you when you say you're perplexed by this. |
All that I can say is enjoy yourself. I agree that the disparity between the Minerva and the AMR is great, in the Minerva's favor.
Anyone who says that you walked in a room thinking there was a live group perplex the hell out of me. I know no one who has ever had that experience. |
As I stated, for me musicality is realism (rarely do I concern myself with what others claim regarding musicality and what is capable in the area of reproduced music).
Since I have owned Tube Research Labs gear (amps/preamp).., Bidat...etc. I have not been able to claim anything as being nearly twice as good. I knew when I was getting to the top and I have not had a revelatory minute in digital repro or amps in over 10 years. I have heard different but it is my experience that if a amp can match or come close to TRL or a dac can match or come close to a Bidat you are indeed in rarefied territory. The AMR 77 is in the a upper echelon of the best digital I have been exposed to. I can't wait to hear the MSB and Musical Playback gear :)
I also have walked into a room on multiple occasions as have others I am acquainted with thinking we were going to find a live ensemble only to find a very musical and realistic system converting the sinusoidal signals :)
I would however be interested in where you heard an AMR 777 and what the ancillary gear was. The disparity between the 777 and the Minerva was so great I was truly perplexed at your assessment of the 777. |
Some claim that all we can hope for in music reproduction is musicality. They don't mean realism, but merely that it is entertaining. This certainly is not my goal. In my 45 years as an audiophile, I have often thought that I was 95% of the way toward realism, only to have a major improvement of twice as good as it was.
Now I think of something that a professional once told me. You can always tell whether a piano heard through a wall is live or a reproduction. When you cannot, that would be a realistic system. Outside my room with the Mac/Minerva etc. I am getting very close on some well recorded albums. The best recording that I use right now is Willie Nelson and Wynton Marsalis, Two Men with the Blues. |
I have never understood audiophiles claiming not to listen for musicality but rather realism...I have always been of the school of thought that music should sound musical (hence real)... Anything else sounds like an oxymoron (or a lot of bad noise), at least to me.
If live events didn't move me emotionally (something I ABSOLUTELY equate with musicality) I would never go to another live event.
I think we both agree that different people listen for different things. To my ears the Minerva is HiFi-ish to the nth degree and this is why it is a great thing for all of us that we have sooooooo many choices. |
Tbg: I want to clarify and agree that system changes can obviously make a difference in the sound of a product. What I meant to convey was that all items used in the comparison were identical....PC's/ interconnect /digital cables...etc, thus the only variable was the DAC itself :) Working with a very neutral sounding system and with ONE variable being interchanged I was very clearly able to determine what the dacs were doing.
When I go and listen to Patricia Barber or Keb Mo...etc, live (at a venue) it does in fact sound musical to me. So I do in fact equate realism with musicality. I have been in the hobby since 1997 (this sickness was imparted to me by my uncle) and I can tell you, if it aint musical I aint listening :)
Regards |
Audiofun, as I implied, my experiences are entirely contrary. I still maintain that minor system differences make a world of difference and tastes certainly differ. I have never heard the realism I hear with the Mac/Amarra/Firewire/Minerva. I am not interested in something that sounds musical, my goal is realism. Oh, I have no tubes in my system at present. I don't think I have ever even seen a Bidat. |
Tbg: Mileage does vary so to speak. I did as mentioned use a Firewire (Entreq) connector and my beloved glass TOS and the sound was nearly identical and I was not moved at all by either. To me as stated above the sound was crystal clear but totally DEVOID of any type of musicality (I know that is a loaded word but I think experienced audiophiles know exactly to what I am referring)...it is kinda like the famous quote from a U.S. Judge..."I may not be able to define pornography but I know it when I see it:)
I had at my disposal the Karan preamplifier and it certainly was not over-driven although I did not check the Minerva for the updates that allow you to adjust the output voltage.
I do not agree that "All of this once again, suggests that component's sound depends on what is in the system and what ones tastes are." ... I agree with the second half (you wrote) "and what ones tastes are."
I do not like using other devices as tone controls and it was interesting to me that when the dealer found that I did not like the Minerva at all he asked me (mind you without my claiming it was sterile) if i had tubes in my system anywhere (my answer was no). His reply was that's why i could not handle the sterility of the Minerva...he has tubes in his system.
The AMR 777 I heard while not as good as the Bidat (Plus mods) or the AMR77 certainly made no bones of putting the Minerva to rest. The Bidat and the EMM Labs gear do not sound the same, so I would not consider hearing the EMM Dacs (not saying you do) a basis for imagining what the Bidat is capable of :)
I have owned my Mac Mini since 2007 and perhaps it is because of where I live but I have not found it to be over critical of power at all, but then I do live across the street from a Mains Power Transformer... I know this because it blew up one night after being hit by lightning. Far as vibration control I use a NAS which has my own home brew of vibrational control employed thus my macs internal HDD is not typically spinning when I am playing my music.
The net net is: The AMR 777 sounded very very very good, the Bidat and AMR 77 sounded Fantastic and even my DCC-1 acquitted itself quite nicely...the Minerva is just not for me and is going back in the morning.
But I am fully aware that some of us listen for different things. |
I just noticed this thread. All that I can say is that my experiences are greatly at odds with what has been said here. Initially, I just used the Minerva driven by several transports and a music server. With the exception of using it with the Oppo 83 as a transport, I was quite impressed with the sound. This was primarily the width and depth of the soundstage as well as the bass. After about two weeks, I was even more impressed as the topend was more extended and sweet.
It had always been my intent to use the Minerva with a Mac server using Amarra and Firewire. The Mac has a USB output along with the Firewire 800 output, but the Minerva has no USB input. I had heard such a setup prior to buy all of this and was amazed at what I heard. When I finally got everything together and waited about a week, I would flat out say nothing in my experience with digital sources even approaches what I am hearing.
I have Shindo Labs vinyl front end and love it. The new digital front end does not sound like vinyl, it sounds like master tapes. There are several conditions, however. First, at least in my system, the Minerva at it full output overloads the line input. I find that two pushes on the Minerva down volume, while still pretty hot, works best. Second, I think the use of Firewire is essential. Unfortunately, I cannot really test this, but with my S/P DIF sources, I never got what I hear with the Mac, firewire source. Third, the Minerva and the Mac are very sensitive to power conditioning and to vibration. My mac using the trickle charger when plugged into the Synergistic Research PowerCell 10SE improved so dramatically, that I had to go back several times to make myself confident of what I was hearing.
I have never heard the Museatex Bidat DAC, but did long ago have the EMM dac. I have heard the AMR 777 and really could not stand it. The best dacs I have heard have been the input on the Lindemann 820S, the Exemplar Xindak Dac 5, and the AA tube dac.
All of this once again, suggests that component's sound depends on what is in the system and what ones tastes are. Given past experiences I expect that the Weiss Minerva will be soon displaced by another dac. Some say the new Weiss Dac 202 will do this, but I have yet to hear a production version. |
We used exclusively the AMR 777 as the transport and as I stated above I completely forgot to bring my resident FIM Gold Coax or my glass TOS. The audition was performed the afternoon of Super Bowl Sunday. I did not take or use my Mac Mini which is my source of choice for ALL my music. Though I may be getting into a turntable for the fun of it :) I did take photos on my iPhone just in case someone needed proof that all these units were in the same room at the same time :) |
When you did the last audition at your friends place, what were the transports involved? A computer at all? What transport for the Bidat?
Bryan |
