Better to buy a high end network player with a DAC?


A good network player does alot.  And some really good players on the higher end include a dac.  Seems to get a really good player, you need to have it come with a dac.  And these dacs seem really amazing, but you lose independence that a separate dac allows.

Why do they force an internal dac on you, and is it all that bad?  Advantages with an internal dac?
jumia

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Melco seems to offer mostly servers included with players.  Servers inside a player seems a bad idea?  Dont follow why melco is any good.  They offer an expensive switch for 2k, which if u use an optical connections seems pointless.
Possibly an internal dac is tailored and better sized to all the things included within a network player.  So this may be a huge plus when considering getting an internal dac,  

Above reference to lumin u1 i think is withou a dac.  The dac in the lumin x1 is supposed to be amazing.
Ironlung,

very helpful comments, so it seems a dac inside a player is appropriate in light of all the stuff that goes on inside box that most have no clue about...

Neg comments about Lumin see abit unfair.
And possibly by now Lumin can be very competitive with Linn.

should i feel comfortable buying Lumin?  Is it really a Linn product?


Right now i am using a Nucleus connected via usb audioquest carbon cable to  a chord tt2 dac.

higher frequencies seem rough and abit harsh.  So i am thinking about the luman x1.  Maybe it will be better.
Mr mahler,
didnt say players without dacs are bad.

i said its tough to get the higher end players without a dac, eg lumen x1, dcs bartok.  The lumin u1 is without dac, and it is a very good player.  The x1 has more to offer relating to the player, but it also includes a dac.

and maybe there is merit in getting a dac built into a player.  
You dont find higher end processors with an amp and there is a clear reason for this. Quality higher stereo preamps wouldnt dream of having an amp.

not the case with a player where it may offer an advantage when including a dac.  
My point is high end players are hard to find without a dac.  Clearly there are many good players without dacs.