best mahler no. 5

No, I think the consensus has it right. If you want to go over the top (like me), you'll want the last Bernstein in pretty decent sonics. The Solti is, for me, an amazing sound, and you don't have to make too many excuses for the 1970 analog tape. The bass drum is unexpected for that era.

try Inbal or Barbirolli...both of them will make you forget Solti and Bernstein and Haitink...especially Inbal...

I second the recommendations for both the Solti and Haitink. I've often thought old Bernard didn't get the critical acclaim I feel he deserves less because of the Concertgebouw and his work and more because he wasn't idiosyncratic enough, i.e., too conventional. (His Bruckner cycle is also very, very good.)

I have Solti's Chicago 1970 LP for more than 20 years and did not have chance to compare it with Haitink. I agree with Vtvu; it is very emotionally involving.

thank for the the big help meni

I own six different Mahler's Fifth, and my favorite is Solti's Chicago Symphony Orchestra in 1970 (London). Very emotionally involving. You need a good system to play it. Try playing it on a so-so system and the sound just falls apart. The bass tympanis at the end of Movement 1 (Trauermarsch) just become distorted noise. On a highly resolved system, the impact is entirely different. Highly recommended.

Kevziek is correct that Bernstein has some excesses and idiosyncrasies, not the least of which is on good system you can hear him humming to himself on occasion. I have always wondered since Mahler was very concerned with religion, and his music often conveys religious ideals, if a jewish conductor like Bernstein has special insights into Mahlers music?

I second Karajan's analog DG Originals, as a very intense, charged reading. I do not agree with those who like the Bernstein/DG. It has the same excesses, oddities & eccentricities of his other later recordings & it never moved me. Solti's London analog 70's 5th is very exciting & dynamic. I have always enjoyed listening to it, & it should not be overlooked. Chailly's reading is ok, but lacks the power & artistry of the above-mentioned recordings.

In the mid-70's, when Haitink and the Concertgebouw were at the height of their popularity, they recorded all the Mahler Symphonies for Philips. The labels sonics weren't the best and Haitink had his detractors but the performances were inspiring: first-rate string ensemble playing, the brass section that the Concertgebouw venue flattered, and excellent choral and vocal work. I found the second and eigth at Amazon as Philips cd re-issues, no mention of the fifth.

Mahler 3rd? Stick with Bernstein/New York DG 427-328-2 I'll try to find that thread.

Many new ones have come out in last couple years, my primary recommendation is 1988 Bernstein/DG like Sugarbrie, a live recording that is very compelling, also own 1969 Barbirolli/EMI. The new 1998 Chailly/Decca has been very positively reviewed recently. Sugarbrie we are waiting for you to weigh in on the Mahler 3rd thread

Vienna Philharmonic / Leonard Bernstein; DG 423608-2 Some like the old Karajan/Berlin on DG Originals at a budget price.