Best Classical Labels for Sound


This is purely my opinion so obviously you may disagree or have a different experience. In any case I wanted to relay my experience in searching for the best recorded Classical music, Now in my case this is predominately Symphonic works, Concertos and Operas. These large ensemble works have always been a challenge to record given their size, dynamics and the complexity of most orchestrations. So first let me describe what I am looking for when I listen to these types of recordings. Also I am not usually sensitive to the conductor and the actual performance so I am not including that aspect. For me sound quality is paramount and I don't care how "great" the performance I just can't listen to poor recordings. I know some of you will think that's strange and value performance over sound but not for me.  There are differences in interpretation obviously and I have listened to most of these works for over 40 years so it would have to be a pretty strange interpretation for me to nix a really good sounding recording.

Ok, so what am I looking for.

First for me is the perspective of the recording. Am I sitting in row 15 or further back or am I in the first row or worse at the podium. I want space, expansion, and atmosphere. Close up, close miked recordings for me are not what I want to hear. Close miked recordings compress the soundstage and minimize depth. It's like focusing with a telephoto lens. It feels claustrophobic. Many "Live" recording are miked this way to minimize audience noise and it's a treat to find a live recording with atmosphere and a sense of the hall.

Second is a well balanced recording where all of the instrumentalist, orchestra sections and soloists are presented just as you would hear them if you were there. In unbalanced recordings you find sections jumping out at you most likely flutes, brass and percussion. Strings in a lot of cases are miked too close and sound aggressive. When you are in the hall at a reasonable distance strings have a silken, smooth sound with no coarseness. So basically I look for a linear recording.

Third is transparency. With these scores I want to be able to hear all the sections, especially in complex parts and also in quiet parts as well. Many recordings fail at this and have a muddy midrange. Usually it's attributable to the type microphones used, or a too distant recording or the venue. And this is one of the most important aspects of Classical recording: the venue. A bad hall or studio can be a gremlin.In the old analog days almost any Decca recoding that was recorded in Kingsway Hall was wonderful. That hall is gone. I have found that the Boston Symphony recordings have always benefitted from their hall.

Fourth is overall frequency response. I mentioned linearity but the recording needs to have open and airy highs, a linear midrange and an impactful low end. Thin, bright recordings with an in your face midrange, weak low end or a depressed midrange really bother me.

So that sums up the most important characteristics I look for and here is where I find them

Telarc

This label is just amazing. What a catalog! t's hard to find a poor recording in their catalog especially anything they recorded after 1990 when they and many labels finally figured out how to record digitally. As my system has evolved and gotten better these recording did as well.The better the system the more you can appreciate these recordings. What a great engineering team. Very consistent. Only a few items in their catalog fail my list and usually for Telarc it's a venue issue.Their 16/44 recordings in many cases are equal to HiRes recordings at 24/96.Too bad they were sold and no longer record. Would have loved to hear what they could do with HiRes.

Chandos

This is also a very consistent label although since they record so many different Orchestras they do have some venue issues Chandos is thee proponent of atmospheric recordings. Very unusual to find a close miked recording with Chandos. In fact they have been consistently the most distant miked label. Now in some cases this has led to a lack of transparency. Again some of their best work is post 1990 and especially after 2000 when they started to phase in 24/96 technology. Hard to find a bad recoding in their catalog. Especially note worthy are any of their BBC Philharmonic recordings. They were sold to Naxos whose owner vows to maintain their catalog and keep producing new recordings.

Reference

What a wonderful label! Staggeringly beautiful, dynamic and life like recordings. Some of their recordings can be a little too reverberant but even then they are excellent. Unfortunately for me their new series with the Pittsburg Symphony has been a disappointment as they are live recordings miked too close for my taste but still excellent recordings.

Deutsche Gramophone

Again post 1990 they figured it out. I thought their early digital recording were too bright but when they started their 4D line it all come into place. Since the mid 90s they have been pretty consistent. In fact the Pletnev Tchaikovsky and Rachmaninoff Symphony recordings with the Russian National Orchestra are really excellent but require a good system to hear what they offer. They clearly benefit from an excellent venue. This is another series of recordings that got better as I upgraded my system. In my opinion these are the best recordings and performances of these works. DG keep getting better. Their live recordings of Shostakovich Symphonies with the Boston Symphony are exceptional. One of the best live recordings I've heard. Also their recent recordings with the Philadelphia Orchestra are excellent. And if you want to hear a really stunning recoding of Ravel's Piano Concertos DG just released a recording with Seong-Jin Cho and the Boston Symphony that is amazing in both  performance and as an example of state of the art recording.

Channel Classics

A label from the Netherlands that offers some very dynamic, well balanced  and atmospheric recordings especially their Prokofiev Symphony series.

Other labels such as BIS, Onyx, Ondine, Hyperion and Harmonia Mundi offer excellent recordings but are not as consistent. My old analog favorites Decca and EMI now part of Warner to me have not yet made the adjustment to digital. Very inconsistent and lacking transparency and soundstage compared to those mentioned above. I also include Sony/RCA in this group as well.

Ok, a long one but I would be interested in your experiences as well and let me know if you have found any labels I missed. Also would be interested in what audio qualities you value when listening to Classical music which is the most challenging type of music to record.

 

 

jfrmusic

Showing 19 responses by jfrmusic

@mahler123 

I do like the BIS label but find them very inconsistent and they can tend to be bright and rather thinner in body. But when they get it right they are very good. And yes there are many smaller labels producing excellent recordings. But again not a consistent house sound. Since I stream from Qobuz it’s very easy to sample many recordings of the same work and fine the best recorded version. And I agree the old “major” recording labels just don’t produce the best recordings anymore. 

@mahler123 

Columbia Classical recordings have been unlistenable to me since my vinyl days. 
In agree on Analekta and Savall. Don’t get me wrong I do like some BIS recordings. I especially like their Glazunov Symphony series. 

@mahler123 

I agree the digital remastered versions are better.  The Walter Beethoven Symphonies with the Columbia Symphony (an in house group) are very nice. 

@whart 

Yes my interest is in Digital recordings. I had an LP collection similar to yours but sold it in the late 90s. For Classical music I definitely prefer modern digital recordings. 

@jsalerno277 

I listened to the opening work on Borders on the 2L label. I agree, fantastically realistic recordings excellent transparency, great soundstage with depth and very well balanced with smooth open highs and deep low end. Plus the music is very good too. Thanks for the recommendation. I will explore more of their offerings. 

@ddgtt 

Sorry I always get those two  labels mixed up. Yes Challenge Classics is the one I meant and the one with great Prokofiev Symphony series. 

@richardbrand

I had great success purchasing and downloading my purchases from Presto. But now with an excellent streamer and Qobuz I just stream everything. The quality is equal to my downloads and ripped CDs and the selection is staggeringly complete. No lost bits. I compare my ripped CDs that I have stored on my streamer hard drive to the streamed version. No difference. If you stream you need your streamer connected to the router via Ethernet. No WiFi. Plus Qobuz has an enormous selection of HiRes versions. Also as soon as a Classical CD is released it’s usually on Qobuz within a day.

@richardbrand 

I use my ears. I have my CD library which I ripped stored on my Internal drive in the streamer. So that’s what was on the CD. I then Stream the same Album on Qobuz and can easily compare. No difference. Qobuz is $10-11 per month to stream anything you want including HiRes. You can’t stream DSD or SACD yet but you can purchase and down load those from Qobuz. Internet where I live is solid but the best experience with no drops is via Ethernet from the router or switch to the streamer. 

@richardbrand 

Before I got a Streamer I used my MacBook to stream Qobuz using WiFi and periodically I would experience a signal drop and have to reselect the track. Now with an Ethernet wired connection to my streamer that never happens. A solid connection. 

@richardbrand 

You don’t have to wire your house to bring Ethernet to your streamer. My Router is a good 30 feet from the room where my audio system is located. I bought a WiFi Extender and plugged it into an electrical outlet near my Streamer. The Extender has an Ethernet connection port. I run a short Ethernet cable from the extender to the streamer. The Extenders are very inexpensive and there are several brands. 
And yes I can definitely discern the differences between cables. It’s quite obvious. Especially where digital is concerned. Digital jitter added by noise causes the distortion we hear as glare and good cables and even good  Ethernet switches can reduce noise and hence jitter. I use an EtherRegen switch  between my Extender and Streamer and connect the switch to the streamer with a DHLabs Ethernet cable. Makes a noticeable difference when you reduce the noise and jitter. 

@richardbrand

The Extender gives you a local Ethernet Connection. This is recommended by all Streamer manufacturers when the router is not near your system. It is not the same as just using a WiFi signal to stream. Google the link for the TP - Link products. They work and provide a strong stable WiFi access point with an RJ45 Ethernet port.

Also in current technology there is error correction for transfer problems but noise on the waveform induces jitter. If there were bit errors meaning lost bits we couldn’t transfer money or use the Internet in modern society. The problem is jitter. It doesn’t corrupt the bits or drop them it adds a timing problem as to how the bits are received and processed that adds distortion. For all purposes other than audio jitter does not really have an effect but for audio quality it’s a source of poorer sound. It’s what separates good digital sound from great digital sound. The bits are always there. You may be referring to drops which are when the Internet signal is lost for a millisecond or so and you hear the glitch or you loose a signal because of interference or load. We don’t listen to bank or other types of transmissions. So jitter is not an issue. But with music it is. This is the reason you need a good internet connection preferably with a switch that clocks the bits and good cabling that eliminates noise. Digital noise: jitter is the cause of most bad digital audio

And yes as I mentioned I can quite easily hear the differences in cables.

 

@richardbrand

No I meant a WiFi Extender. This is what I have. 
 

RE650 TP-Link

AC2600 Wi-Fi Range Extender

Far Reaching Wi-Fi and Powerful Performance

 

Powerful Quad-Antenna design with Beamforming delivers highly targeted Wi-Ficonnections to improve throughput and signal quality for stronger Wi-Fi across your home. The Intelligent Processing Engine balances the demands of your devices to keep their connections fast and uninterrupted, sending Wi-Fi traffic to dedicated processors while the powerful dual-core CPU handles the rest.


This does not send any signal over the house power line  

 

 


 

@richardbrand 

You can try Qobuz on a 30 day trial. The quality is excellent and equal to the CD source. Now if you are using your computer as the server or streamer as I initially did you may experience WiFi issues. I would periodically loose connection and have to restart the track. Once I got my streamer which required an Ethernet connection and I plugged in the TP Extender which boosted the signal and gave me local Ethernet connectivity I never had an issue. And as I noted the sound quality of my ripped tracks on my disk sound identical to the same track streamed from Qobuz. Now that may also be due to the quality of my streamer and DAC. But I can say Qobuz is addictive. You have access to just about anything available on CD especially in the Classical genre. 

@simonmoon 

Thanks for the suggestions. Will check them out. 
 

@vetsc5

I mentioned DG in my OP. They have some really nice recordings and have continued to improve. 

@gownaus_king 

Most if not all Music Steeamers such as Aurender have their own App and they usually provide access to Tidal, Qobuz and Roon. I use Qobuz which has an amazing Classical library with an enormous number of HiRes versions. Have yet to be disappointed when searching Qobuz.