BAT VK-P10SE w/Depth Charges & Manley Steelhead


I am looking for a new phono stage for my system. VPI Aries, JWM arm, Benz Ruby 2H, and a Lyra Helikon. Have owned the Aesthetix Io for about 6 years. Have not listened to my records in the past 4 years. I want to get back into it.

Although I did enjoy the sound of the Io, I want to try a different phono stage. I am considering the BAT VK-P10SE with Depth Charges and the Manley Steelhead. I did have the Lamm LP2 on my list, but the BAT and Manley have edged it out. No particular reason. I have considered the ASR unit, but I want tubes.

I have heard the VK-P10 in an other system many years ago and liked it. I have also heard the Manley at the Stereophile shows in NY. I liked the Manley also. Previous to the Aesthetix Io, I have owned and enjoyed the Audio Research Reference Phono and the PH-3 (with real nice Siemens 6922's)

For folks that have listened to both the BAT and Manley in the same system or have had the opportunity to listen to both extensively, can you tell me what the sonic differences are?

I am leaning toward the VK-P10SE with Depth Charges right now, mainly because of people saying the Manley is a little thin harmonically. I am not sure which way to go with this. I would enjoy reading some comments on both units.

Thank you.

Rich Maurin
rmaurin

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What's the rest of your system? Also, i'm not sure the manley or the bat is better than a Io. Especially so, if it was a Io Sig.
Other than volume, what more can you adjust on the Manley? Now you can adjust things easier by not having to take the cover off the BAT...

The BAT VKP10SE with depth charges is a hec of phono stage. However, the newer Io mkII Sig will beat it. I've heard it numerous times at 2 friends houses. One friend went from a Manley to the Io mkII sig dual supplies. If you want the best, get the Io. If you want something that's much more plug and play, the BAT is a pretty good deal.

I've heard that same comment on the Manley, diff tubes or cartridge matching should help out. The BAT has the classic BAT sound...incredibly wet warm mids, big stage, deep tight bass soaring highs. The mids and the top end on the BAT may compete for best of class. The Io is better at inner detail, image size, flow, etc. The little things that mean so much.

The BAT does benefit by running it balanced, both input and output.