Basis Audio - Exhorbitant servicing evaluation cost


I have lusted after a Basis Debut turntable for years, and recently was close to purchasing one used. That is until I explored Basis Audio's service policy. Service is not even a link on their website... I had to find the turntable policy, which explains they are a "victim of their own success" since they have such great sales success and excellent service, they can only provide very limited information about their older products. Then they say to know more you must send a table in for evaluation. The fees for evaluation are alarming to me (see below). $3400 just to evaluate a Debut vacuum table? I planned on spending just a little more than that to buy the table in the first place. I emailed Basis weeks ago to ask if I was understanding the policy correctly and whether the fee was applied to eventual repairs. No answer. 

Since this evaluation cost, and the general vibe I get from reading their website is "We don't want to service our tables so we will price ourselves out of most of the trouble," is preventing me from wanting to buy a Basis table, I thought I would ask experienced Basis owners here what they think. I've heard nothing but great things about their products over the years, but if I can't have it serviced if I need to, it just scares me away.

From the Basis website:

4. Basis turntables are extremely precise and technical tests and measurements are labor intensive. Pricing for the evaluation, based on model, is as follows:

1400: $500

2001, 2200: $1,200

2500: $1,600

2800: $1,800

Debut: $3,200

Debut Vac: $3,400

Inspiration: $3,500

Inspiration with Vacuum: $3,700

Vector Tonearm: $1,200

SuperArm: $1,600

montaldo

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Yes many reasons on their website and I'm sure they are valid from a business standpoint. But as a comparative example, SOTA undoubtedly has the same problem having been around a long time. but they've always been amazing with discussions and service and helping customers to understand how to potentially do repairs in the field to save time and money and trouble on both sides.  In fact they've now created tutorials and things for that. This approach seems like a much more helpful way to deal with the business problem. 

 

And I have no problem with Basis charging going ratss for their time but it just seems like they've set the prices high enough where they know most customers won't come to them for service. As Glennewdick notes above, can it really take a qualified Basis tech more than a few hours to see what's wrong with a table?. And what alternative is there for reliable service on these wonderful products?

 

it sounds like the service at basis is great. I wish I understood why they feel I have to charge so much just to diagnose a problem. 

And again I've heard nothing but great things about basis. I didn't mean to start a complaints session on them! 

appreciate the thoughts

Yeah. why not just $150/hour for diagnosis? Not saying they shouldn't make money.  

Maybe the turntable policy gives the wrong impression that anytime one sends a turntable in to basis they get charged that fee. From the stories above it sounds like that doesn't happen? I just don't understand under what circumstances the fee applies.

they didn't respond to my email but maybe I should just call them, since the these don't seem to apply every time you send it turntable in.

I have always gravitated to vacuum tables, having owned SOTA tables. So the debut vacuum seems like a holy Grail :). The truth is I don't know a lot about many other table brands. I have friends that have owned many from VPI and others. 

If I could confirm that basis doesn't charge that fee every time you send a table to them for any repair, that would help.

but I'm also happy to receive recommendations for other great tables. My listening preferences are very much tuned to musicality, dynamics, rich mid-range, and meaty sound. I try to avoid components that have a dead "neutral" or highly "detailed" reputation, sonically. 

not to perpetuate this thread, but I'm not complaining about the cost of service. I just don't understand how they can charge $3,500 just to figure out what's wrong with the table? it's not clear but it seems the service for the table would not be in addition of that.