Balanced vs Non-Balanced XLR?


Hi All,

need some advice here. I am looking for an int amp with XLR input, I read that int amp with XLR input could be of true balance design or of not true balanced design.

I got a reply from a manufacturer on their amp design:
The balanced input is true balanced, in so far as the electronics inside the amp takes the balanced signal and converts it electronically to a single ended signal for amplification purposes in the correct manner. All our amplifiers are 'traditional' single ended designs, not fully balanced designs, so the balanced signal inputs and outputs are all electronically modified to suit the balanced cable and signal requirements.

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what does it means, in term of performance, to me as an end-user if i am using the XLR input of the amp? does it mean there will be no difference between XLR and RCA inputs for the amp?

Thank in advance
wyred
True differentially balanced components eliminate 2nd order harmonics, at least internally. What the speaker does is another story. From a purist point of view, distortion is distortion and the manufacturers that build this way must feel it's worthwhile to nearly double the parts count. It's not a fad.

We don't hear most distortion intrisically. Our ears and brains translate those into frequency anomolies. Personally, I've come to believe that we all prefer or expect some degree of distortion.

The topology is not an end, it's a means to an end. While it's reasonable to assume similar results from similar topology, attributing results purely to topology is idealistic. IOW, you get what you get.

In 'pro audio' the term, "servo-balanced" is often used in relation to conversion to single-ended internally. I happen to own an active crossover that uses this method in an otherwise fully balanced system from source to amps. Balanced crossovers are rare and expensive. Rarely, transformers are still used for this purpose.

There are fully balanced integrated's. Ayre and the Chinese brands, like Jungson, come immediately to mind. And if Emotiva can do it, it's not always a function of cost.
It is not always true that your gain will double if you run balanced- that has to do with the design of the circuitry, even if it is differential.

Usually its to your advantage to use the balanced connection if the source is putting out a balanced signal and the input accepts it. If either are single-ended there usually is no advantage.

But once you hear what the advantage of balanced is all about, you won't want to go back :)
The whole perception with Balanced compared to Non-Balanced is that the total over response in signal should increase by 6bd if you using everything Balanced through your whole systen but on top of that it also decreases the noise by 6db. All professional studios use full balance including speakers for that matter. When it comes to your amp whether its a tube or solid state, the perception of sound will be dictated primaraly of your pre-amp and power amp and how much output it is willing to take and how stable the load is. Nordost and Siltech I use all the time to test the differences between them with certain amps and pre-amps, sonically with certain balance cables there is more finer detail, though everybodys hearing is different so you have to hear it in a controlled environment which I do in where I work.
one more thing,I made xlr from rca,just because i found out that rca atlas elektra was balanced cable
I use atlas elektra xlr between krell kav500i and technics cd player sl-p2000 and agree with Marakanetz,don't wanna go back to rca.Quality of sound increased,less noise ,more gain
Don't forget about common noise rejection. I use balanced XLR throughout the whole rig even in analogue(swapped RCAs to to 5-din XLR).
The input voltage not always will be doubled. There are components that have XLR outputs that are not balanced. The truly balanced components have standard output voltage and decreased voltage from optional RCA outputs by 4dB so you won't overkill if you use XLR even onto the high-gain amp.
Sonically I can't and won't go back to RCA since i don't have to care much about wire quality.
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