Bad news for home theater enthusiasts

@oldrooney Everyone's out to make a buck. We're old enough to remember free OTA and then came the ON Box. It's been downhill ever since. Contact my congressman I will as they're very receptive where I live but once the smell of profit and a captive audience start to converge, it's tough to fight, but worth the challenge. Take care.

All the best,
Nonoise

You'd have to ask your kids.

Saying that 3/4 of an hour after the dust has settled and the argument is over. 👍

@fredrik222 Nope. What people are bringing are truckloads of popcorn to watch you self destruct.

All the best,
Nonoise

@fredrik222 There's a whole lotta projection going on with you regarding personal attacks, freddy. That's all you've done so far, hunting and pecking, hunting and pecking. Remember kaleidoscope?

Your last shining moment.

All the best,
Nonoise

@fredrik222 You're festering fascination with me is leading you to another of your famous Kaleidoscopic moments. Can't wait for that meltdown. You ASR types are wound way too tight.

All the best,
Nonoise

@fredrik222 In your quest to try to put me down, you take everything exactingly literally when I’m speaking in a general, conversational manner, like one does on a forum. It’s the only way you can retort. Like I said before, "you hunt and peck".

You’re incredibly obsessed with me to the point of lacking situational awareness.

Having options to cable entails the programming they have to offer and not just the mechanism used. HD OTA doesn’t begin to compete with cable in that regard and that was the point I made, which you very well know. That you sidestep that entirely says all one needs to know.

As for this:
I said nothing about the market growing, I said ATSC3.0 is rolling out to 50 new smaller markets this year.

Isn’t that what’s known as a distinction without a difference? Or maybe, you contradicting yourself in one, short sentence? Don’t make me slip the nurse a twenty to put a sedative in your jello.

All the best,
Nonoise

@fredrik222 What good are markets when the options to watch are as sparse as your imagination?  All anyone needs to do is go to antennaweb.org, type in their zip code, and see where their available stations are located, how to position your antenna, and view the listings. For HD-Nextgen, click on it to narrow down the field.

I've been doing it for years, waiting for the day when I could cut the cord and get comparable programming in HD-Nextgen and in a big city like LA, all I have are 6 local stations and a jewelry channel to watch in HD. Wow! Now that's progress.

You're saying the market is growing is like saying all empty office buildings going to waste are a sign of business booming just by counting the buildings. 

All the best,
Nonoise

@fredrik222 Did you have to go and look that up? I read a similar article just yesterday and this one just now (just to brush up a bit and get a general consensus ).

The most optimistic read is here and it's still not the best of news. They've still got a long ways to go.

Don't they have shuffleboard or corn hole where they keep you?

All the best,
Nonoise

@fredrik222 

When I said "became a thing" I meant that to be a nationwide option. I've seen demos of it years ago. "Slowly rolling out" is a great understatement.  Why have you resorted to "hunt and peck" attacks? Slow day at the asylum?

All the best,
Nonoise

Wouldn't it be wonderful if OTA 4K broadcasts became a thing? I seem to remember one company who was doing 1080i or p cable broadcasts OTA until they got a court order to stop. The people in the community loved it. They said they'll be back but that was some 2-3 years ago.

Another valid reason to breaking up monopolies.

All the best,
Nonoise

Nope. Never did. Your statements are just proof of your psychosis. Soon, little man, you'll be getting a time out from Admin.

All the best,
Nonoise

@kota1 

You're insane, you know that, right? You're not the authority you present yourself to be and look all the more foolish the more you spout off. Do you get hit a lot for talking the way you do?

All the best,
Nonoise

And that folks, is what's know as saving face masked in a parting shot while whistling past the graveyard.

All the best,
Nonoise

@fredrik222 That was the lamest of apologies ever (lies, slander and spin) but it'll do. Coming from you, that's the best anyone could hope for. 

All the best,
Nonoise

@fredrik222 

freddy, you're nothing but a numbers man, a bean counter. Your other hobby is collecting high end pocket protectors and slide rulers. Your services were of value at one point in your life but hanging out on an audio site to bust the chops of it's members is laughable.

I think practically every member would (and has) agreed with me on that thread. Some even PM'd me to thank me on that. They hear a difference. Others joined in to say the same thing as well and continue to do so and you continue to butt in on their threads to rain on their parade as best you can. Your ego knows no bounds which is your Achilles Heel. You're predictable

Are you hoping members here are going to stumble on all the data protocols you posted and be impressed? Or the argument you put out that until anyone smarter than you comes along, you're automatically right?

People on this thread have already stated they're into streaming and that entails getting the best service for the money. Sinking up to $35K on a video player would be ridiculous. Yes, the ultra wealthy could afford it but for you to imagine that everyone here has hundreds of thousands of dollars invested in their systems shows just how out of touch you are. What's it like having one foot in and one foot out of reality?

As for injecting myself into this conversation, that big brain of yours overlooks the fact that I started this conversation. In your petulant need for revenge, you went and made yourself look petty and ridiculous, again.

All the best,
Nonoise

@fredrik222 

Ah, I see the resident crank is here to ply his craft. I said physical medium is better than streaming. You come back with another form of physical medium I never brought up (in a way agreeing with me) and then calling me out on it for not mentioning that particular one.

A player that costs $4K without any internal storage and requires servers that run from $5K - $31.4K depending how they're bundled. Get real. 

Rather lame but quite on point for someone who stalks these threads with a grudge  spoiling for a fight. Get a life as well.

All the best,
Nonoise

@jkeitel Thanks for that. My sister had over 28 years there and when they took over, practically all of Warner Bros collective talent over all those decades were given the axe. From top to bottom they just slaughtered the industry and ruined a community that thrived for generations. 

The guy who took over (I forget his name) said he dreamed for a long time of destroying the business model. I could never get my head around why they'd hire a psychopath like that and a year or so later he was kicked out for his crummy, money losing decisions with a big fat payday. Oh well, my sister was planning on retiring but it came a bit earlier than she wanted. Take care.

All the best,
Nonoise

@jkeitel  It's all about greed. When Warner Bros was taken over, again, my sister was among the ones who were forced out to make way for people who have no idea how to run a studio, let alone make movies, and streaming is their way of recouping their investment. 

@p05129 Totally agree but don't let jasonbourne71 hear that.

All the best,
Nonoise

@lalitk 

Hopefully by then they'll have perfected it without cost being a consideration, or at least factored in. 👍

What bugs me is that many years ago I read a post on an online blog from a tech who used to work for a cable TV service. He said that the cable boxes we using then were throttled down versions of the ones they use in Japan and barely operate at half the speeds they're made for. It was intentional from the get go. 

There was some mention of having to build up the infrastructure and they're just too cheap to do so, scrubbing every penny they can, so they take their time doing so. We could have been up and running at speeds that would eclipse the needs of the medium a long time ago but again, profits got in the way. Rant over.

All the best,
Nonoise

All one has to do is watch anything well made from Lawrence of Arabia to Dune on Blu Ray and then compare it to streaming on cable. So much is lost in translation, so to speak. 

Taking away discs will force some to go back to the theaters, get soaked in ticket and food costs, and still get a loss in quality compared to a good home set up, like most of us here have even with our two channel set ups.

I, myself, have outgrown the theater experience as the audiences are coarse as well compared to ones in my day. Too much noise and distractions that take away from the experience.

All the best,
Nonoise

@lalitk 

According to the article:

Quality: Although the quality of streaming video has improved over the years, it is still dependent on the viewer’s broadband speed. Unfortunately, not all consumers have access to or can afford the internet speed that will deliver the best possible quality. 

Using Disney+ as an example, an internet speed of 5.0 Mbps is the minimum required for HD content, while 25.0 Mbps is for viewing 4K UHD content. Other streaming services have similar requirements. 

Although standard definition DVD quality can be easily provided to most streaming viewers, physical 1080p Blu-ray supports transfer rates of up to 48 Mbps, and UHD Blu-ray supports transfer rates of up to 128 Mbps. The only streaming service that can support more than 40mbps is Sony Bravia Core which provides up to 80mbps. However, that is only available to owners of select Sony Bravia Smart TVs. Disney+ and Netflix are nowhere near that level yet. 

This means that streaming services have to use sophisticated compression techniques to try to deliver equivalent quality to their subscribers despite low transfer speeds. However, they don’t necessarily reach that goal.

So if they're going to take away the physical medium, they'd better up their game on the streaming end. I've always noticed the downgrading of video and audio quality through cable compared to disc playing. I'm stuck with Spectrum cable. 

All the best,
Nonoise

All the best,
Nonoise