b&w suggestions

On the good side, looks like the 804s will sell pretty good and that will help buy any others. so there is that.

This is in my home theater set up. not much music at all being played through them. 804s are all around... was wondering for the front sound stage.

thanks
Bill

No on uses or has use 800 801 802 803, in a how theater on here and has listened or used the 804 for comparison?

Bill

One of my friends has N802's in the front and N804's for rear. He has the B&W center channel, not sure of the model plus a REL Stentor sub. All of the electronics are the top of the line Linn components. The system sounds great as you should expect.

There is a huge difference in performance between the N804 and the N802. I can't imagine being disappointed with upgrading the fronts to N802's. Simply put, the N802 will go louder with more clarity and with more bottom end weight.

When I purchased my N802's, I walked into the store with the intent of buying N804's. I listened to them and next up the N803. The N802 was so superior to those models it was no contest. I spent way more at the time than I wanted to. But, on the bright side I still have them and enjoy them so it was money well spent.

When you went to buy your 804s and ended up with the 802s.. were you listening to both sets on the same equipment and with a sub for both or were they both just two channel without a sub?

i ask this because i use a sub for my home theater... if i used 802s or 804s they would both be crossed over at 80 or 50 and the sub would take the lower ranges... so it would be harder to distinguish between the two sets of speakers because i am using the sub.

My audition was in a two channel system without subwoofer. The electronics were Mark Levinson and were kept the same for all three speaker model auditions.

In my friends system, the speakers are run full range and augmented by the REL. It would be difficult to estimate the differences when using an external crossover. I think it is important to consider the midrange driver and enclosure from the N802 is completely different and more sophisticated than that found in the 804/803.

If one were to have that much confidence in the subwoofers, would you not be able to get by with four 805's and not worry about floor standers? But since you already have the 804's, you should either stand pat or upgrade the fronts to the N802's if you can justify it financially. I do believe it would be a sonic upgrade.

I own both 803ds and 804s. I only use them in a stereo system, not HT.

I first had the 804s set up and optimized and they sounded very good. Excellent sound staging and imaging. I upgraded to 803d because of the diamond tweeter and I have to say the 804s were stiil very good by comparison. The 803d can produce a larger sound stage (generally because they are placed further apart) and better bass, higher SPLs, more dynamic transients.

The potential downside is they can be brighter in the upper midrange (high pitched flutes, female vocals with a lot of microphonics/syllabence), esp if placed too close together.

If you are happy with the 804 I would tend to stay with them unless they are not filling the room like you want.

With the addition of my anthem statement amp. the 804s fill the room well. although, since i have not listened to the other speakers in the series i do jot know if i am missing anything that great.

thank you for the response
Bill

Bill:

If you can borrow a pair of 803s to try, then that is your best bet. If you have to buy a pair and hope their better, its a larger gamble.

If you buy a pair used at a good price, you can flip them and get your money back. But be aware the 803s are very heavy and they need expenseve B&W packaging to ship. In my experience, you can ship a pair once maybe twice before the packaging falls apart and needs replacement.

Thank you.... i would be great to find someone close by that has the 803 so i could listen to them... i do not know of anyone in my area with the brand.... we should get a local list of owners to be able to find out this kind of thing.

thank you
Bill

I will be in the lookout for some 802 speakers then... thanks

The 803s are heavy, but the 802s are tanks. I did not consider them because I just cannot move them around my house without the help of a couple extra people (and I live by myself). The 804s are paperweights by comparison.

Strange consideration when considering speakers, but you need your eyes open to the somewhat inconvenient but practical side of things.

This is true... maybe i would be fine with my center. or maybe down the road i could find one 802 for the center

Four furniture sliders under the N802's and I move them between rooms all by myself. No problem at all. The right tools for the job make all the difference.

I feel that spikes are essential for good sound, so moving over carpet is not easy. I also have my 803s up on plinths with spiked heavy brass footers (between the 803 and the plinth, and the plinth to carpet), so moving this combo around is especially difficult. I was actually looking for a lift truck with a movable lifting platform but these are very pricey.

Weight and moving around are not an issue, the sound difference between the center i have and possible 802n or 802d is my main concern.

If its just for the center (????) then I would consider the 802n and save thousands over an 802d. I think they might be a better match for the 804s versions (similar tweeters).

803 is just a side grade

go for 802n

My question is more of what front speakers will match up well with my center?
i use my speakers for ht... and on a side note i am not really sold that the 802 would be a great upgrade seeing how they will be crossover and a sub introduced.