B&W Rip-Off


Here is a good one, What a cheep ripoff of some B&W speakers.

http://cgi.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/auc.pl?spkrmoni&1133404814&1132839359
krellm7
Cheap chinese drivers. I'd be interested to see their raw response curves. But a good crossover can still make cheap drivers sound pretty good.
You want response curves? Just wait they will be in TAS or Stereophile soon NOT!
Geez Krellm7, take a pill. The way I read the ad (the jump link is actually pretty funny), they are 700 clams, not $1K, so your argument loses a little steam. I'm guessing, based on other feedback about TAD, you might get your money's worth. As far as the hyperbole on the website, heck, its no where near the level of rhetoric on the cable manufacturers' or vibration control folks' websites. And, frankly, saying you ought to hear them before calling them cheap isn't a "circulatory" argument (I believe the term is actually a "circular" argument, and it isn't applicable at all in the context you have used it).

Heck, I find B&W's sound pretty sterile, so in my book it wouldn't be too hard to build a better speaker. Moreover, given the cost of prototyping and production in China, as well as vast improvements in quality control, these might just be B&W killers.
I have no experience with the product or the seller, but frankly, the smarmy dismissal of all audiophile things Chinese on Audiogon is comical. I have a $400 Jungson integrated amp that I bought 2nd hand here for $325 that makes the Audiolab 8000A which retailed for close to $1000 15 years ago that I replaced it with look and sound like a cheap mass market receiver from Best Buy. There may be some junk coming out of China, but there is also some VERY high end equipment being manufactured there and sold at VERY reasonable prices. And most of it appears to be from Chinese companies, as opposed to other non-Chinese companies who are now having their products built there and still charging very non-Chinese prices.
Edesilva the bid is starting at 700 clams so your argument loses a little steam.