I think true (maybe more serious or committed) audiophiles only care about how their systems sound - the ones who care more about how it looks are looking to show it off (possibly) - ergo all the attached pictures showing their impressive equipment on this and other websites.
Also, I disagree with the appreciation comment of jewelry being better than stereo equipment. They can both be antiques and the appreciation is highly dependent on the individual object. Some jewelry is almost worthless immediately after purchase. |
I think it is just that they are uncomfortable or disinterested (many of them) with the technology complexity and demo areas. Some of the high end rooms look like physics labs. Less women go into STEM. If you told an audiophile demographic survey, it would probably lean more towards science/engineering/technology/math types or mechanically inclined guys that like to fix things. BTW, it also holds true for video. My wife doesn't even know (or probably care) if a channel she is watching is HD or not. But she likes music, but is scared to touch anything on the stereo except the volume knob. Never has made it louder....
I bet more women are into cars than stereos. Now, they may not be into high performance cars always, but they seem to have pretty strong opinions and know what they like. BTW, many HATE high performance cars. |
@gg987 - My wife sees how careful I am cleaning and organizing my records with the jackets, folders (in many cases), sleeves, boxes (in some cases) and wouldn't want to go through the trouble, and probably never wanted to put the stereo on while I wasn't there. She does put on DVDs/blu-rays on her own when that is hooked up though. She won't play it through the stereo, just through the TV, because once again, she doesn't care.
Did you ever see the fantastic movie Diner? Check out when the subject of the record collection comes up. Classic.
And I wasn't born in the 50's. Never met a woman audiophile. Glad to know one and your set up is too organized and neat for even me. |
That's more than a lot of stores
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hilde45 - I don't think your food analogy holds much weight, unless the taster is blind. How appetizing a food looks can make you think it will taste better, which actually makes it so.
I am by no means a foodie, but I like what I like and am picky, and I can tell you that a thrown together plate of food is not as appetizing as a neat one or a carefully constructed one at a restaurant. I would be the cooking judges at contests take presentation into account. When people judge stereos they are supposed to close their eyes. |
I wouldn't have used the word polarizing Tony. You're doing market analysis. The demographics exist. |
@tony1954 - of course food tastes better when visual senses are not in use. The other senses become more keen. Or lack of capabilities lead people (or animals) to adapt in other ways. Ever see a 3 legged dog? Amazing how they function.
Much is spent at expensive restaurants on the design and decoration - some designed so you can sit and relax and some with bright colors to get you in an out quickly. The fast food places spend a lot on decorating also believe it or not, to withstand the heavy traffic.
MC is just a little fired up today, give him a break. Although, I would recommend he just skip over the subject. Let's keep the politics/Trump arguments out of this conversation and really completely off the Gon. I see enough of that crap on TV. |
@dave_b - are you trolling for a date? Why do you say something so general demographically? Maybe that's your experience or in your family, or whatever. Then you compound the comment by saying the "better" ones are smarter! As they say say on ESPN, "Come on man"! The women that are book smarter or have more common sense aren't better women. There are lots of other attributes to consider, and it is very subjective.
Women are less inclined to go into STEM - that doesn't make them dumber or men smarter, and some women live to shop for frivolous things (like their equivalences of stereo equipment) and others are very careful with what they spend and in making decisions in general.
@tk21 - you have never seen a woman strut? What planet are you on?
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You quoted it as fact. How was it studied or measured, (gullibility and overestimating one’s ability) to lead to those conclusions? Sounds anecdotal to me. |
I am shocked that they separate women into separate chess tournaments @cd318.
So @audio2design, are you saying the average IQ of a man is higher, but the median is higher for a woman? Interesting.... Thanks for the facts, although some of them would seem hard to measure....gullibility, overestimate their ability...?Be careful with some statistics and how surveys are worded. Many times they are designed with the end result in mind to prove some thesis.
Of course there are biological differences that cause physical, mental and emotional capabilities to vary. Men are from Mars and Women are from Venus, right? Never read the book...but I can guess what is says.
Why does it bother journalists that women don't have as many highly rated chess players? Maybe they don't like it as much and don't play.
I don't think my wife has ever stepped foot in a stereo store. But, I am sure some women like them. I can't recall a stereo saleswoman though. |
IQ measures the ability to recognize patterns. That helps with solving problems.
That can certainly contribute to one’s career success, but it is only component, and may be the smallest part.
Some think of this as book smart. But that’s not right. Some bookworms may not have a high IQ,but very high determination, which is another contributor to success. Psychologists call it grit, and it may be the biggest contributor.
Also, EQ, emotional intelligence is a significant part of success as well. That measures maturity and how to navigate situations socially, kind of like “how to win friends and influence people”.
Get someone with high scores in all 3 and I would bet they will achieve their goals.it could be fame, fortune, or whatever their definition of happiness is. |
@emrofsemanon - I would bet against you. Probably much lower % - median is probably $50-75K. Demographics of audiophiles are older, many retired or semi-retired with time on their hands to play around and experiment with stereo equipment. Younger (below 50) % of audiophiles is probably very low.
Mid-upper income people are probably working and don't have much time - they may spend a lot as part of an entertainment room or home theater but never used the term tonearm in their life.
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