Audio Research REF 750 pre July 4 FIRE WORKS. TUBE ARC.


Well I just had time to finally hook up my new Audio Ref 6 se for the first time as I got it back from AR last week. So I waited patiently for my night off from work last night and was also very excited to finally hear that for the first my Audio Research REF 750s. that came with the KT 150s with 660 hrs on them. I was really enjoying the beautiful sound of these phenomenal amps for a few hours and called my wife up to hear how amazing Barbra Streisand sounded playing The way we were. I had all the lights off in my listening room and we were lost in the sound quality as my B&W matrix 800 speakers disappeared and melted also to the beautiful sound of her voice and when all of a sudden there was an explosion as I had first thought. The middle of the top KT150s there was a loud SIZZLE a FIREBALL and a loud POP !!!! And WHITE SMOKE and then cut off. We immediately jumped up and my heart sank as I yelled OMG. I jumped up and ran to my L amp and I pulled the plug while the R amp and speaker was still playing. I said WTF happened?? My heart sank in my stomach as the first thing I thought was now after all the anticipation of that night to finally arrive I was now devastated as I had no idea WTF just happened. I was numb. I finally calmed down some looked over the amp on top. Didn’t see no damage and texted my guy that I bought them from and he told me it sounds like a tube arc. He then told me to take all the top tubes out but u can leave the 2 inside ones in. He then said to carefully take off the top cover as I did. I turned the cover over and saw black underneath as I then turned it over I saw it was V10. He said now look at the resistors by V10 socket. Sure enough the wire leads were gone. He said your V10 tube is shot and u will need to replace the resistors by V10 socket. I said does it have to be sent to ARC ? As I just got delivered the REF 6SE that had been upgraded and just got it back from ARC on Tuesday. I couldn’t think now about packing up the Left Ch REF 750 and shipping it back to ARC. He said nope no need to. Just have the Resistors replaced and get a new V10 tube with the same number on it from ARC. And call your ARC dealer here in NJ to see if his technician can come to my home and replace and solder the new resistors back on. Put the new KT 150 in and you will be back in business. So now I am waiting for my ARC dealer to open this morning and hopefully he will tell me some good news. Just don’t understand how or why this happened? Has anyone else had a similar experience? Wow I will tell ya that it was a very scary thing.BTW I never owned a tube amp except for my REF6 SE pre so this is still very new to me.

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I once had a similar experience with a large tube amp. It certainly makes your heart rate spike! These days, I think a tube amp with a minimum number of power tubes is the answer. Otherwise, ss is a very good option.IMHO.

Sorry to hear about your problem. It is really terrible to happen before holiday after receiving your updated preamp.

I would say this is a very uncommon problem that only very occasionally happens to tube amps. It almost never happened with preamps because the tubes are much lower power.

A friend of mine bought a Rogue tube amp twenty years ago, this happened shortly after he received it. He replaced resistor and tube, never having a problem again. I know many folks with tube amps and am friends with a dealer who have never had this happen in his broad experience.

So, yes it very occasionally happens, I doubt very much it happens more often with  ARC, it is caused by a tube failure and is possible with most tube amps.

Tube amplification is very popular because of its sound quality.

I have an audio research VSI 60.  It burns through tubes very fast, and has to be repaired every time.  I don’t agree this is a tube amp issue. This is an Audio Research design flaw/issue.  
 

My Primaluna doesn’t even blow a fuse when a tube goes out, and tubes last way longer.  Too many people rush to defend Audio Research.  
 

 

I've had ARC amps for 30 years and this happens.  I have some of the resistors around someplace, hopefully.

It is the reason I would never leave home with the amps on though and usually want to be in the room with them.  your tube cost is going to be $3-4/hour, so don't leave them on if you are not listening.

This is not uncommon. I had a pair of ARC Ref600s, predecessor to the Ref750, and this happened every once in a while. The fireballs can be quite harrowing, but getting the amp fixed was always pretty easy: just replace the resistor and the tube.