Audio Research Ref 3 vs Atma-Sphere MP-1 mkIII

 
Let me offer a slightly different take on what I think Tvad may be describing. I'm not sure that the MP-1 presents an inherently closer or further view of the soundstage. In other words, I don't think its a front row vs. mid hall preamp. Although I have heard preamps (some CJs, the Premier 17 for example) that do seem to put you further back, so its not entirely a recording issue

Imagine you're looking at an orchestra, standing on the same level as the musicians are sitting. Imagine you could ride a boom-lift straight up so now you're at say a 45 degree angle from where you were. Imagine what that would do to your perspective on the orchestra.

Using this scenario I think the MP-1 yields a more oblique perspective. You are not closer or further, but the orchestra *seems* more "spread out" (higher, wider) than it does with a preamp that gives a more 'head-on' view. Distance (depth) is the same, but the perspective yields a more dimensional view of the musicians.

I grappled with this issue recently listening to the MP-1 and another preamp. I'm not sure my account ultimately holds up, but I needed a way to explain to myself that the MP-1 gives a different view, but not necessarily a closer one.
 
Tim
 

Thanks Grant, that does clarify certain things.

I prefer a more laid back, or mid-hall perspective as opposed to the "in your face" front row perspective.

I know that I differ from others who love the front row view, so thank you for clarifying what you meant Grant.

Cheers,
John

Grant, if you wouldn't mind, could you expand on your comment that the Atma-Sphere presented a "much larger image"?
The reason I ask is that I have heard this phrase many times, and IME, it usually means a more forward soundstage. A wider and higher soundstage, but at the sacrifice of depth.

FWIW, depth is a priority to me, I like a deeper 3-D soundstage as opposed to the more forward, larger 2-D stage. I do realize that everyone has different tastes though.

Cheers,
John