ATC speakers, anyone heard of them?

SCM20S is equivalent to SCM20SL, they were the first SCM20 to incorporate Biwire terminal and SL magnet. After that, all SCM20SL is basically similar. However, the S comes with beautiful Ebony veneer (which can no longer be had), and both side matched, a signature plague from Bill Woodman, and individually numbered.

The treble is not 'stand-out' in ATC because they are accurate. If you have bright front end, then ATC will be bright. Most 'audiophile' speaker inaccurately placed the soundstage too far. ATC places them just right, I can 'shift' the soundstage if I do something wrong in the upstream setup.

Used SCM20 for 4 years, upgraded to SCM50ASL. To add a bit of top end sparkle, get a pair of Totem Beak. 200W or more of solid state Class AB or 100W Class A mandatory for SCM20. Forget tube, even if you have high power like ARC Classic 120, it sounded mismatched, but Mcintosh 275 seemed to work fine.

Expensive, don't think so. I will prefer SCM20SL over Wilson Watt. Make sure SCM20SL sits on 21" high stand. 24" is too high, and lost the balance somewhat. Please throw away the blue pads if you are getting the Sound Anchor stand.

Anyone using SCM50, remove the rubber pads on the factory stand and replace with small globs of Blue Tack. The midrange will be much more transparent.

The comments are generally on the money with one exception: To suggest that the top end is even a little polite makes me wonder if the writer listened to the same speaker I did-or alternatively, to ask what other equipment was involved and/or which recordings were played. I found both the 20 and the 7 (the smaller one) to be astoundingly accurate. This means, of course, that one hears, sometimes ruthlessly, what is being fed into the speakers and at times the results are anything but polite, so I would suggest that this is not a characteristic of the ATC's, but of source material or the hardware. I have a pair of A7's on order, because I liked these a lot, although it's possible the accuracy may be too much for some.

thanks for everyones help. I really appreciate it

Soul,

Critically listened to the $1100/pr. for a second system and was very favorably impressed. Bit more lively than the Spendors, quick and very musical. I liked the presentation very much and am considering them.

They were simply run by a $500 Luxman CD player, $1,000 Luxman integrated and placed on Sound Org. stands. It was good.

I used to do some work for a dealer who sold ATC speakers but don't know the difference between these versions. I believe the 20s just underwent a price drop, which addresses for me it's most serious shortcoming.

As far as sound, ATCs are really in a league by themselves. The only question is, do you like the league. ATC is a professional monitor based company that is pushing more into the consumer market, so if you're looking for an "audiophile" sound with holographic imaging and a deep soundstage you may be disappointed as they do tend to have a more forward sound due to their professional roots. That said, as far as tonal accuracy, dynamics, and speed they are absolutely top notch. The ATC midrange is outrageous, and once you hear it you might not want anything else(I know several people that's happened to). My only knock is the top end can be just a bit polite sounding(it is a British speaker afterall) and lacks the last bit of air in the top octaves, but it is still very detailed. Bass is more than fine for a speaker of this size.

Haven't heard the Dynaudios, but ATC blows B&W out of the water by virtue of its ultra clean and powerful midrange. I'd take the 20s over the 804s or 803s(and certainly over the 805s) in a heartbeat as B&W midranges sound relatively dry to my ears and the metal tweeters draw too much attention to themselves on too much music(the dealer also sold B&W so I had lots of time to compare), but they are both quality companies and your personal tastes may prove different. There's no getting around going out a listening.

The only other speaker I'd recommend would be the Talon Khite, which keeps up with the ATC in many areas but adds a bit more finesse in presenting the overall soundstage(i.e. not so forward and disappear better in the room).

By the way, if you want more info. on ATC I'd recommend calling Chris Barry at Avant-Garde Home Entertainment in Chicago. He's a nice guy who is extremely knowledgeable about ATC and will give you the straight poop--(773) 348-5466(FYI, I don't have any affiliation with this dealership, I just know they'll give you lots of good info. on ATC and B&W). Hope this helps and best of luck.

Tim

I heard them(SMC20 I beleive)at a shop in San Antonio. I must admit they were fantastic. Great sound, especially considering their size. The build quality was excellent. My only drawback was the price. If I remember they were $4,000. Check out www.atc.gb.net.

Havn´t heard them, but check some English magazines as
Hi-fi News or Hi-fi Choise,they have most likely reviewed
them.
Regards
Håkan