Are REL the most Musical Subs?


Forgive me if I have created a redundant thread.  I don’t usually post in the Speakers area.

  I have a Paradigm sub in my basement HT that has apparently given up the ghost after about 20 years.  I’m not a huge bass listener.  We used to use the area for movies but lately a different room of the home has taken that over.  I listen to classical music and the system gets used primarily for SACD and Blu Ray.  No desire for multiple subs.  The front speakers are full range, setup is 5.1

  I added a REL sub to my 2 channel system a few years ago, an REL, and have been delighted with the results.  It doesn’t boom at me.  What it does do is add the low level percussion effects that composers such as Mahler, Shostakovich , and modernist composers add to reinforce bass lines.  I never realized, for example, how many gentle tympani and gong effects are in Shostakovich Babi Yar symphony.

The REL integrates all of this naturally without calling attention to itself.  The Paradigm in the basement never did this but it was an older design and more budget friendly.

  So I am inclined to replace the Paradigm with another REL in the basement but was wondering what the current thinking is with subs.  I haven’t paid much attention lately and the stuff that I have pulled discusses multiple subs, Atmos, etc, and doesn’t seem to address my needs.

  Placement will be different as well.  The current sub is placed between the front speakers, and the gear rack is on the other side of the room.  20 years ago I had the energy to bury the cables next to a baseboard heat along the all, after schlepping the sub over the basement testing placement spots,but with advances in DSP I’m now hoping to place the sub next to the rack

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I have a pair of S/510's with Tannoy Autograph Mini's in a near field setup (7 feet away) with the subs far removed from walls and corners. The integration with the Tannoys is perfectly seamless, even following their field of imaging and making the subs pull a disappearing act as good as the Tannoys. The Tannoys bottom out at 100 hz and the RELs fill in from there down to 25 hz with no problem whatsoever. Asking a sub to crossover at 100 hz is asking a lot, which is the reason why the RELs are expensive. This setup only costs about $7,500 and will probably out-perform some floorstanders selling at three times the price. When you listen to something like this you instantly notice what is missing without subwoofers.

No, REL is absolutely not the most "musical" sub. There are several manufacturers who make better subs, more "musical" as well.

I don’t know, I just perused the SVS site and the prices seem about the same as REL?  Maybe I’m missing something…

The SB1000 Pro is $599 and goes to 20Hz at -3dB.  The HT/1510 is $1699 and is -6dB at 20Hz, or you could go with the S/510 with similar extension for $2899.  You could get two SB1000 Pros for $550 less than one HT/1510 or one for $1100 less, so that’s where I was coming from with a value proposition.