Ligi, presuming that your Pioneer is a consumer not professional model, you must use consumer cdr/cdrws because of copy protection. Mitsui does make consumer audio cdrs, which are available at
http://www.american-digital.com/prodsite/category.asp?c=51
model MIBDAC |
Again, for all the real information regarding CDR's please visit www.cdmediaworld.com There are only 12 manufacturing plants in the world. Mitsui and TY are two of them and they make, what are reported to be, good discs. However, people have complained that Mitsui's have begun to peel. Not good.
The 12 plants make CDR's for all the brand names out there and the brand names change plants every other week. Or, so it seems. So, you can never be sure who is making your favorite disc unless you visit the above mentioned site or have a computer which can read the inner groove of the CDR which has the information incripted.
The best rule of thumb is to stay away from any disc's that are made in Tiwain. These plants there have poor quality control and independent labs have determind that they do not hold up well. Ritek and Printco(?) are two of the lesser manufacturers.
Also, note that the average life of a disc is undeterminded at this time. I have had disc's that were made on "the best" media which would not play after 1 year. Refer to past post "vaporware".
If you want information from those that have used thousands of disc's over the years you should visit www.oade.com and review the taper's sections.
This is a page dedicated to folks that tape live concerts and use CDR for trading and back up. There is a great deal of experience there and should be helpful with questions and infromation regarding anything involving recording. |
Will the Mitsui work in a Pioneer audio recorder and not just in a computer burner? |
How 'bout good an' cheap?am-dig.com(Americal Digital) has the Mitsu's but also has spindles of .18 cent spindle blanks called Taiyo Yuden.I have yet to have a failure and even use them as matering discs.They are so cheap because they are only rated to 4X.but the work greta for transcribing Lp's and doing double speed copies. |
http://www.tapeplus.com/computer-media-computer---cdr.html |
Here's a site that sells the Mitui Gold for $.77 each for 100 to 500 w/o jewel cases: http://www.cddimensions.com/cd-r_media/mtc-r74tgg-cb.asp
and another where one can buy packs of 25 with jewel cases at $1.35 each:
http://www.arcal.com/goldinjewelbox.html
Let your search engine do the walking.
BTW, black cd blanks by Memorex and PNY are said by some to sound the best for audio. Have tried them and they work fine, although I can't say I can hear any difference compared with others I've used. Look sexy though with gold lettering on a black background. <:) |
Craig, after saying those words, do you know feel like a "top advisor" ? : ) Sean
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Hello Mr. President (always wanted to say that;.). Could someone please post a web site where these Mitsui CD blanks are available? I've never heard of them, but have gotten very good results with Maxell, Sony, and even the pretty inexpensive Memorex that some seem to bitch about.
I have a Sony ES CD player, Pioneer CD recorder/player, and Levinson M37 transport and all read and play all these CD-Rs just fine-- think I've also had a few TDKs. My daughter's Denon CD player and her car CD player also read/play them with no problem. And the sound quality of all is equal as near as I can tell.
From what I've gleaned off the inet, the blue-green dyes now used in CD-R blanks are much more stable than those from 2-3 years ago. Cheers Mr. President. Craig |
I haven't tested for sound, but I can tell you that in the world of archivists, the Kodak gold (now discontinued) and the Mitsui gold win all the longevity tests. |
Never thought about this much and have been satisfied with TDK but will definitely check this other brand out. thanks. |
I have tried a bunch and Mitsui Gold are the best. |
Yeah Buck, I think they do mean Mitsui. Some computer catalogs sell them in bulk just like any of the Sony or TDK CD-Rs. |
Here is a link that will be helpful
http://cdrfaq.org/ |
Do you guys mean Mitsui??? |
Would you please post the web address for MITSU.
Thanks--Rex |
The Dutch government did a study to determine this very subject, I don't remember where on the web I ran across the statistics.
Their finding were the same as stated by Ehider, Mitsu was best, and a special gold version from Kodak just behind it. |
The absolute best are Mitsu. They have a patented dye which retains data much better. I've done listening tests on Phillips, Sony, TDK, Maxell, Mitsu (gold and silver), Kodak and Niamo and the Mitsu beat em all!
Buy the Mitsu silver or Gold directly from Mitsu (see the web for details). They cost $1.42 each (with a jewel case) in boxes of 100. Not bad for the best of the best! |
I don't know if there is a sound difference, but there is certainly a quality difference based on the manufacturer (which is not the same as the brand name). Search the archives. This topic has come up before and there is a web address for a site that rates the various factories and tells you which brandsa are made in which factories. |
