as usual what I see here at Audiogon is the manufacturer of Audio nor the official repair centre is not willing to give you any info about parts , or technical info.I wonder if this against eq European rules .It is strange because in the automotive industrie you can get the software of cars , buy parts at shops not related to the brand .I'm not talking about losing your garanty , thats another question.But getting the info for which Tsushima1 is asking he has to wait until somebody will be so helpful to measure or let measure the data he wants.( I 'm sorry for you , I have the REF3)