Thank you for all of your responses, I’ve decided to switch back to a voltage input phono stage.
@eaneverson I have a Lino C 2.2, but not the Hayabusa. My present MC cartridge is Audio Tekne MC 6310, 2 ohms and 0.1 mv output. The gain is set @ +12db, the highest setting, due to the low output. For other MC’s with 2 - 6 ohms and output @ 0.3-0.5 mv, e.g. ZYX Ultimate Omega or Transfiguration Proteus, typically the lowest gain setting is perfect. The highest gain on the Lino is meant to very low output MCs, 0.1mv or below. |
@mijostyn comments noted, I will reach out to Rob again and ask. Have only used the passive RIAA and will have to to experiment once I get playback sorted. |
@eaneverson The gain depends on the cartridges impedance and output voltage. I have a Seta L Plus with a similar gain structure as your Lino C and the MSL cartridges sound great. The Ultra Eminent EX has the best signal to noise ratio of them all. The system is dead quiet set at a volume of 95 dB, even with your ear right up against the speaker. Because of the battery power supply these phono stages are almost impossible to overload. The single layer Lyra cartridges are also excellent, but you will hear a slight hiss at high volumes. Have you tried using computer RIAA correction? Rob's Pure Vinyl program is a lot of fun. You can raid your friends record collections. |
@audition__audio thanks for your input @mijostyn that is for the minimum setting setting see note from Rob below for 1 ohm cartridge. For a cartridge with a 1-ohm internal impedance, the gain with the Lino C set to its maximum setting is 85dB. So, by using the gain adjustment switches, 85, 79, and 73dB settings are available. If the cartridge has an internal impedance lower than 1 ohm, the gain will be greater. This dovetails with lower-impedance cartridges having lower output voltages, and needing higher gain. |
@eaneverson That is the high gain setting. The MSL would be perfect. The more output the cartridge has the better the signal to noise ratio. Message Rob Robertson ( softsupport) at Channel D and ask. |
I have read Cartridge Reviews by Shakti for many years, I do sense there is a very reasonable account given from a person with a wealth of experiencing Analogue Systems and more importantly is quite familiar with items being discussed. The Hayabusa is referenced on a few posts in this Thread in the Link. |
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@rauliruegas thank you for your input on the Hyabusa but the cartridges you referenced are at least double the cost and wouldn’t it be a stretch to expect the same level of performance from the Hyabusa?
@mijostyn the concern with Ultra Eminent Ex would be the gain, at the the Lino 0db setting the gain would be around 74db which would be too high I think. My current phono is set for 64db which translates to between 12-1 o’clock at my listening level with that much gain at a guess this would drop to maybe 9 o’clock on my preamp. |
Hi, I think you should spend a little more and go for the My Sonic Lab Ultra Eminent EX. It might be an ultimate combination with the Lino C and between the two of them an ultimate value for sure. I have not heard the Hayabusa or looked at it under the microscope, but I have the Ultra Eminent which is handily up there with the best. Give it's 0.6 ohm impedance and rather high output it's signal to noise ratio will be extraordinary giving it the widest dynamic range possible. |
Dear @eaneverson : The MUSIC live or reproduced in our systems starts with the Transient Response of each instrument as faster the rerpoduction as better the overall quality LPlisten performance. Next comment came by a very well regarded reviewer about the Hayabusa:
" Transients were smoother than they were fully and sharply resolved compared to cartridges costing twice the price, and micro- and macrodynamics, while very good, were no match for the explosiveness produced by such super cartridges as Ortofon's MC Century and Lyra's Atlas and Etna. "
The Umami Red you own can do it that and comes with better stylus diamond shape.
Regards and enjoy the MUSIC NOT DISTORTIONS, R. |