any one hear the new b w 683 yet?

I used to own both DM-604 and 604S3... The main issues with the entire 600 Series were very poor cabinetry and cheapy internal wiring. Both 604 versions suffered boomy bass with poorish definition and pitch. Mids OK, slightly darker than 602 model. Not listened the 683 yet. If you can stretch the budget, the 804S is miles away in terms of quality...

Good luck!

I guess I'm the odd one. I actually liked the 684 better than the 683 when I did a side by side comparison (Marantz equipment). Seemed the 683's didn't have the mid range I liked and the highs seemed to come out too much with respect to the mid and bass for my taste.

Maybe I'm just weird.

Entry level? get real. In the UK these speakers are £900. FAR from entry level. We have a "hifi" chain over here called Richersounds, now THAT'S entry level.

PDN, really interesting reading what you have to say. I have first hand experience with 601S3, 685 and 683. The 683s are by far the best speakers I have ever owned. Even better than the $3000 Monitor Audio GR20. MUCH better. The 685s are also incredible value.

As for the 804s being miles away in terms of quality, I disagree. Of course, the finish on the 800 series is magnificent, far better than the new (or old!) 600 series. I have heard both speakers (although must confess, not side by side) and both are fantastic speakers, but not overly different. I didn't feel they were worth more than twice the price, for perhaps 10% more audible performance.

Maybe I'm just bias because I own the 683, but I truly think B&W has reinvented the speaker market at this price.

This is just my opinion!

Yes I agree with Zormi about the DM604-S3's. I found them too boomy next to the DM603-S3's during my audition earlier this year. I can only imagine how much more boomy they would be once I got them home in my smaller room than the store's demo room. I found the 603S3's to provide more detail in the mid-range just as Zormi stated. The 604's might work better in a much larger open airy room than what I have. I already had the ASW600 sub so I really didn't need the 604's anyway. They really don't need a sub in some room configurations.

I just love my 603's with the ASW-600 sub. Not sure I understand the cabinetry problem though. Mine are solid . My room is 13'x 23'x 8' high with two openings out to hallways. The 604's would probably be overkill !!