No harm / No foul.
I have a system problem right now that I'm working and may post If I don't figure it out.
I maybe, and probably AM wrong about your system, but going to CA tech support can't hurt. Maybe they've had this issue before? |
Magfan, sorry for the late response. Thankyou, for the info on CA Tech Support. I will contact them and ask.
Guess I may have been off track on the OP issue, sorry about that. Just thought it may be somehow related.
Vinny |
Vinkim,
I'm just getting back to this thread.
Call CA tech support and see if there is a software update for your DacMagic.
My CA player, the 840c, simply doesn't like the optical output of the AE and does worse than skip. It emits a very harsh, glassy noise which is very hard on the ears.
My CA player simply does not like the poor clocking of the AE.
As I think about this, I believe the OPs problem is related to a network issue where the network 'wakes up' as it sees a signal. I don't know if the problem happens at the start of EVERY song..... |
I have problems, as mentioned above, with Airfoil to Airport Express to DacMagic when using the optical out from AE. No problems with analog and no problems using Itunes to AE optical out, that is skipping airfoil as it is not needed..
In fact I have to be sure to quit Airfoil when playing Itunes using optical out from AE to DacMagic.
The problem with the Airfoil - AE - optical - DacMagic is skipping or cut-outs during songs.
I am starting to think that the problem is in Airfoil. |
Null modem serial cable is needed up update the CA840c player.
The AE apparently has enough built in clock instability....jitter? that the CA simply doesn't like it. I have heard a similar sheen.....a couple times, come from my DishNetwork receiver going optical to the SAME CA player.
AE to DAC null modem? on an optical line? CA player has NO USB and besides, the USB on the AE is dedicated to printer use.
I hope the DACMagic doesn't have the same....issue, or the buyers of that guy are in for a nasty surprise.
I have the correct serial null modem cable, the directions and all the goodies, but am simply CHICKEN to hook it up and 'go for it'.
If I turn my CA player into a doorstop, I'll really be pissed. |
Magfan - You can get null-modem adapter (that crosses receive and transmit lines). It is something in communication between AE and DAC. When I set my AE to the the same frequency/channel as microwave oven sound disappears after few seconds and comes back few seconds after I turn microwave oven off.. That would imply that AE has about 3s buffer. Playing ALAC should be easy on AE since it is native transmission format AFAIK. |
Kij,
Thanks for answer....and more info to be stuck in my 'buffer'.
Problem with my system is NOT the 'gap' between tunes. Stereo will simply produce a glassy, nearly fingernails on chalkboard screechy sound at random thruout play.
1. happens on ALAC or MP3 at any bitrate
2. AE plugged into CA840c to be used in DAC mode.
3. Error correction at burn to confuser does NOT effect outcome.
4. Using earbuds on AE is perfect. At least for my crumby earbuds!
5. Error does not repeat at same place when replaying tune. Always at a different spot.
CA sent me the software UPGRADE which they claim (can't remember) fixes or mitigates the problem... I'm chicken since I have to connect the player to a computer, using a null-modem serial cable. Dealer? They want to CHARGE me for this 'service'. |
Magfan - Airfoil is to send sound from any application (or system) to AE. Without it AE only works with Itunes. AE worked with "Front Row" with previous OS but Apple disabled it in Leopard. A lot of people wrote to them about it but they are unresponsive and Snow Leopard has the same problem.
During gap between songs Airport Express stops sending data and DAC goes to "mute" (since there is no valid signal). My Benchmark DAC1 is fast enough to come back but some other DACs extend mute to second of two of the next song. Your DAC might provide substitute clock. Play with "crossfade songs" in Itunes to remove gap. |
Several questions:
Does the upgrade for the AE help its clocking?
What is Airfoil?
I just use whatever my Imac comes with to talk to the AE. When trying this, I don't know if you'd call it a dropout or not, but the music would get very 'glassy' and harsh. just for a few seconds, and not regularly. My DAC was losing lock, according to what I could find out.
Is the upgrade for me? The idea of all my CDs on confuser, wireless to stereo and a decent DAC is too good to give up! |
This is late, but try this download from Apple:
http://support.apple.com/kb/DL973
I found this in the mac users forum for problems relating to pauses, skips, fadeouts relating to using the optical out from the AE to a DAC using Airfoil. I have not tried it yet, but have downloaded and ran the program.
Vinny |
Personally, I use a Benchmark DAC1 and I'm pretty happy with it. It doesn't have the local clock issue and plays the AE perfectly. That's actually the way I listen to music most of the time. |
It is definitely the dac. I have had this problem with more than just the AE. Using my blu-Ray player as a transport results in the same delay. I am very interested in the Cambridge dacmagic as a solution, because I would like the two switchable inputs. Any other dac I should be considering that has two optical inputs? |
It seems your DAC is "slow to lift mute" from a no signal condition. To determine if it's your DAC or if it's the AE/Mac combo moving betwee songs, enable crossfading or whatever it's called. This way the "song" never ends, it fades in to the next song.
If the music never stops, then it's your DAC. If the music pauses between songs anyway, then it's the AE/Mac combo not being able to move from one song to the next, but that's highly unlikely.
Good excuse to grab a new DAC! |
My Benchmark DAC1 doesn't have this problem either. |
I'm using an MHDT Paradisea that doesn't have this problem. |
I'm using a MF V-Dac with an AE and have no problems. Sounds great! |
