A civil discussion about the state of Audio Research


I invested considerable time yesterday expressing my thoughts as to the current state of Audio Research as a company from the standpoint of quality (positive) and customer service (negative) only to have the entire thread censored/deleted by the mods.
For the small subsection of this Country’s population that are home audio enthusiasts, Audio Research is an iconic brand. Moreso than any other company, AR was the torchbearer for tubes when the rest of the amp manufacturers were turning to solid state. Further, though there were a few duds here and there, I am hard-pressed to think of any other company that has made as many legendary models of amps and preamps that have withstood the test of time (imho only Krell, Spectral, and CJ come to mind and present era super-brands such as CH and DarTZeel lack the history necessary).
My point yesterday is that AR’s acquisition by a parent company has resulted in a dilution of brand identity-similar to when Volvo was acquired by Ford between ’99 and ’10 and suddenly cross pollination of parts and assembly took place. My second point is that unlike the car industry, audio is a niche industry and to refuse to interact with customers directly and to instead insist that the customer go through the local dealer is inexcusable. I think we would mostly agree that when one tries to call AT&T about one’s cable and internet service only to get a computer interface and then eventually a clueless third-party intermediary who barely speaks English in India, the entire experience is frustrating and inadequate. I have news (apparently) for the parent company of AR; the present system is not altogether different from getting a clueless intermediary in some remote country who can not really help you.
My local AD is not a top-notch audio salon. They don’t stock a single piece of AR gear in their showroom and primarily cater to home theater. They have one salesperson who has a history of owning AR gear and he only works part-time. More importantly, based on other accounts, I have no confidence that if I experience a catastrophic problem AR will treat me with respect and take care of me. I have heard nothing but the opposite. The human touch is gone. My local Devore dealer, a nationally respected one-man shop dealer-used to carry AR and thanks to several awful experiences since the take-over dropped AR and now sells VTL instead.
I am hoping that this thread results in a CIVIL and appropriate, mostly intelligent discussion of the strengths and weaknesses of AR and AR's future. If the mods wish to delete this post as well, fine, but I want a forum to post my concerns about AR and if this one won’t accommodate me, I will find another.
Again, for the record, I am the original owner of a Ref 6 and Ref 150SE and therefor have ~$30,000 invested in my amp and pre alone. A paltry sum by the standards of some, but not paltry to me.
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I had the similar experience as monoogan when I sent my DAC9 for USB upgrade couple of months ago. The service was performed within 48 hours after they received the DAC.  But then it sat there in shipping and billing department for a week. When I sent an email to shipping department, there was no response for 4 days.  I end up calling my service advisor to get things moving.  
  i didn't read all that,   but
i owned a few ARC products  even after the Change over,   always had good response from ARC.  I'm probably older then you and never give manufacturers any lip.             i listen to some customers, It's like this 
  """Hay i spent 8 k  you better do this and that"""
  you won't get far Eddie 
Good luck getting any product support from McIntosh.  They also provide support for Wadia but I had NO luck getting them to fix my Intuition01 which was still under warranty for a known manufacturing issue with Left & Right channels changing position (ie., left channel switching to right channel and vice versa) depending on the input selected let alone even answering my emails.
Great discussion --- the only piece that's missing is a contribution from ARC themselves.  Here we are, significant purchasers of ARC products.  The company should appreciate our views, experiences, and some frustrations, and take this as an opportunity to speak to us about the state of ARC: products, repair protocols, and future direction.  I'm waiting...
In this day and age, most folks believe that bigger is better..and that more costly is worth more. ARC ( under World of Mcintosh) are a smaller entity owned by a bigger conglomerate...this is what the public has endorsed and respects. Remember, when ARC was a smaller company and privately owned, it was prime for take over. Typically when this happens, the actual customer service recedes; why- because the new logic is...there is ALWAYS another customer out there, so why bother with this existing customer. Short sighted, but common...and seemingly respected in most industries these days.