6H30 Tubes


Everyone says the sound of these tubes can’t really be changed, yet there are cheap as well as very expensive versions available. I use these in an AR preamp. Aside from matching the tubes, can I get a better/different sound going to a more expensive tube? My current tubes came from Upscale Audio and if I recall were well under $100 each, maybe even the pair. I know there's threads on these here, but maybe there's updates on what folks have tried.

jaybe

The only really meaningful 6H30 (also called 6N30) option is the NOS "DR" version of supertubes. The more desireable ones are from the 1980s. They’ve been hard to get, and very expensive, for a very long time. Even 10 - 15 years ago these would fetch $200 per tube. Good luck finding strong, matched sets these days. I’ve been pretty tube crazy this past decade, but even I’ve never tried to fetch a set of these.

That leaves the Sovtek and Electro Harmonic "Gold" 6H30pi as your 2 modern options. I’ve uses sets of both, a few times each. With ARC preamps too. Pretty damn similar in sonics. The EH "might" be a tad warmer. Maybe. Not enough for me to bother much about; I have a couple sets of each in reserve. I do know that cryo treatments, and Upscale Audio’s "Kevin’s Stash" or "ARC Select" premiums never made a whit of difference to me. Upscale’s "Platinum" grade is as good as I’ve ever needed.

I’ve heard of some bold audiophiles using 6N6 as a sub for 6H30 in ARC preamps (e.g. Reference 6), and liking the sound better - BUT reports are they won’t last long, indicating they’re being run harder than they were designed for in these amps. So honestly - that sounds pretty risky to me. 

I've used the old stock DR in my Venice line stage, tried modern production found it dead sounding, did manage to find a matched quad of very early DR 6H30s, all the joy came back immediately. I gather that in some gear, the difference is not so noticeable. And as mulveling said, sourcing those is harder than some more rarified "grail" type tubes. 

A while ago, the new Western Electric factory issued a query to find out what the general population wanted in a new tube reissue, I challenged them to try and match the Russian 6H30 "DR'. So far, no response.

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