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4Point9 vs. OL Conqueror vs. Vertere Super Groove HB

Hello, I was thinking that my next major purchase would be a tonearm upgrade from the OL Silver. My chain is Soundsmith Zephyr Star MC > OL Silver > Dr Feickert Volare > Decware Step-up with the ZP3 Phono pre > McIntosh MA 8900 > Belle Klipsch with upgraded crossover. I listen to everything from Jazz and Americana to Punk. I love the way the system sounds now, and would like to increase detail, realism and further tighten up the lower frequencies (and perhaps enhance), to get the best sound possible to the Belles ( which I got from a friend who's aunt was gifted the speakers from PK. ie. no serial numbers).

Since I have posted my system, I have added bass traps to the wall behind the system which helped clarify the muddiness. 

I am sure that I would be happy with any of the tonearms listed above, I was hoping to get some real world experience with those of you who have tried these tonearms either individually or the experience of comparing one to the other. 

I would also like to know if someone feels that I would get a bigger bang by upgrading the Volare to the Blackbird.

Thank you!

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edgyhassle OP
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@rauliruegas  Yes, I agree the Belles have their limits. My goal is to make them sound as good as they can. Down the road if desired, I can change out speakers. These do sound real nice right now, except for the bass control.

If I hear you correctly, I should look into getting some subs to get better results than improving the quality of the source components.  I know, it's all important. Maybe time to look at an alternate plan.  Thank you.

rsf507
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I've heard the 4Point9 at my dealers over 20 times with many different cartridges. Sound is always amazing and the difference in cartridges is easily heard. It will be my next arm.

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edgyhassle OP
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@rsf507  It is currently my top choice too. I wish I could have afforded it before the price crept up. I just recently began looking at the Vertere, so it also has appeal. Thank you for your insight.

grk
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I have been a very happy 4Point9 owner for almost two years. Haven't heard the other arms mentioned.

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drrsutliff
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Moved up through many Origin Live arms to now using the Conqueror 4 and Enterprise 4 on my dual arm setup.  The Conqueror was home to my Soundsmith Paua II for a while.  Great combination.  How have the Soundsmith Hyperion MR on the Enterprise and a Miyajima Zero mono on the Conqueror.  Each move up from Silver to Encounter to Illustrious to… provided a greater level of the excellent OL presentation and engagement.  Highly recommended.   

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