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2020 update : JC Verdier La Platine
A recent encounter with a JC Verdier dealer as well as a recent Audiogon discussion thread led to the start of this thread. He was in my house updating my La Platine which had been in storage for ten years with thread and oil. While he has high regards for the deck, his newer clients nevertheless prefer a Techdas iii than an 'old' La Platine. Given the proliferation of expensive decks in the past dozen years, La Platine has become very much under-appreciated.
It's clear to me that the influence of the La Platine is everywhere to be found. Specifically, the magnetic suspension system that was employed 30+ years ago. Even SOTA offers their newer decks with mag. lev. features. And if you read this review: https://www.callas-audio.nl/Callas%20Platine%20Mod%20Kit%20Review.pdf, the Continuum Caliburn uses the same concept, which was not acknowledged in Fremer's review, albeit with more sophisticated , and expensive, execution.
It is also clear to me that there is much misunderstanding of the workings of the La Platine. I for one have contributed to this. The motor of the La Platine, for example, has been much maligned. The thread drive is another aspect of the turntable that have been described as inferior. With regard to the motor and thread drive, I have been set straight by Chris @ct0517 and Lyubomir @lbelchev. Experimenting with the different types of silk threads, the tightness to the platter and a renewed understanding of the soundness of the Philips motor have been rewarded with better dynamics and transparency.
The funny thing is that during the past two years of re-engagement with audio, I have questioned ownership of every components in my arsenal except the La Platine. It has always been a keeper. I wonder if La Platine owners would contribute to celebrating this 'old' deck with tales, advice, and insights?
Cheers!
It's clear to me that the influence of the La Platine is everywhere to be found. Specifically, the magnetic suspension system that was employed 30+ years ago. Even SOTA offers their newer decks with mag. lev. features. And if you read this review: https://www.callas-audio.nl/Callas%20Platine%20Mod%20Kit%20Review.pdf, the Continuum Caliburn uses the same concept, which was not acknowledged in Fremer's review, albeit with more sophisticated , and expensive, execution.
It is also clear to me that there is much misunderstanding of the workings of the La Platine. I for one have contributed to this. The motor of the La Platine, for example, has been much maligned. The thread drive is another aspect of the turntable that have been described as inferior. With regard to the motor and thread drive, I have been set straight by Chris @ct0517 and Lyubomir @lbelchev. Experimenting with the different types of silk threads, the tightness to the platter and a renewed understanding of the soundness of the Philips motor have been rewarded with better dynamics and transparency.
The funny thing is that during the past two years of re-engagement with audio, I have questioned ownership of every components in my arsenal except the La Platine. It has always been a keeper. I wonder if La Platine owners would contribute to celebrating this 'old' deck with tales, advice, and insights?
Cheers!
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Regarding footers, I too am in the camp of defeating the original spring footers. However, I cannot say that the change is a sea change, as @mr_gray has experienced. And once the platter is on rigid footers, then some form of pneumatic platforms is recommended. I would assume that it should be a platform that would hold both the motor and the turntable, correct? That would mean a rather large foot print. I have a 120 cm x 45 cm x 5cm solid wood platform to accommodate both. I was eventually going to use Townshend seismic pods under the wood platform for isolation. I would imagine the pods would work. However, I have seen motor and platter on separate platforms. How are you all handling this? |
as i now see it - with the la platine on its own feet, the movement of the la platine platter (wobbles) was exciting the suspension via contact between platter and spindle. this in turn was leading to a noisy motor as it was receiving forces of up and down rather than just lateral. noisy motor then feeds back into platter chatter. and on we go in an unholy mess. now, on rigid feet, the motor only deals with a lateral load and is much quieter. the double looped silk is the "lubrication" in the system. a little give perhaps. the silk thread knot is tiny relative to linen. plus less "large" as the double loop somewhat minimises the significance of the knot. i continue to get extraordinary W/F results with rigid feet on la platine. having said that, a platform which could prevent motor chatter (such as it is) from reaching platine platform and hence tonearm would certainly help. rigid feet don't do as good as a job as the platine feet in this role ime. i must admit i don't know if such a platform would best have the motor and platine on it or just the platine? it seems to me that if the motor is on it, then the same issue exists (motor chatter shared with platine platform and hence tonearm). so should be separate which would help since as @ledoux1238 points out, otherwise you are dealing with a very large platform. if kept separate, then the only chatter the platine gets is from thread/speakers. silk thread is dampening i believe. speaker chatter unavoidable i think. |
The Manual Levelling Designs are much cheaper and also cancel out frequencies desirable to be cancelled in audio. Migrating Amplitude from Ambient Energies is always worthwhile to look into measures for managing it, when a TT is the system source and the mounting of the TT and supporting ancillaries are the important consideration. |
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