charles1dad
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| I don't want to beat a dead horse but I'm bugged. @cd318 Now as to the reasons why some consumers would reject scientific data, perhaps it’s just a question of pigheadedness? I haven’t noticed any participant on this thread rejecting scientific data, who’s doing that? I would acknowledge that ... | |
| I don't want to beat a dead horse but I'm bugged. @atmasphere FWIW I fault the 'objectivist' camp as much as the 'subjectivists' in this debate. Many of them don't know about all the specs that make a difference and allow their expectation bias to color their perceptions. IOW guilty of exactly t... | |
| I don't want to beat a dead horse but I'm bugged. The more I read that measurements don’t matter, the more it makes me want to question whether the expert opinions from amp designers have merit. Hence I bring it up. Maybe a 2nd reading is in q. I haven’t read anyone proclaiming measurements do... | |
| I don't want to beat a dead horse but I'm bugged. This is impossible with a proper measurement set. If they measure so close, I personally would not trust user listening tests unless they don't know what they are listening to. The potential to fool ourselves is too high. I found this m... | |
| I don't want to beat a dead horse but I'm bugged. @holmz I would like to see some meaningful measurements on those amps, rather than go solely by belief. Go solely by belief? What are you talking about? I have bee very clear with my comments on this thread that I value the listening experie... | |
| I don't want to beat a dead horse but I'm bugged. @invalid I think what most designers mean when they say accuracy is that the wave form doesn’t change from input to output. That’s a valid point and therein lies the problem. You can take several examples of audio components that are capable of... | |
| I don't want to beat a dead horse but I'm bugged. @atmasphere The problem here might be the terms used, since ’coloration’ is usually a bad thing in the context of getting as close to the musical event as is possible. But instruments have tone ’color’; one must be careful to not conflate the two... | |
| I don't want to beat a dead horse but I'm bugged. @holmz I do not have the Benchmarks, but would like to try them… Or the new Atmasphere Class D. I believe that this move would please you very much. Go for it. If I were to make a change ( Primarily to reduce box count but retain superb sound... | |
| I don't want to beat a dead horse but I'm bugged. @sns I've interpreted color from every single audio system I've ever heard, and that would range all the way from sterile to extremely romantic. Perhaps some believe accuracy lies somewhere outside this all encompassing bell curve. Please sugge... | |
| I don't want to beat a dead horse but I'm bugged. @holmz I don’t know who these "upper shelf designers" of amplifiers are that you’re referencing. Okay, you find your tube audio electronics "colored" (As though transistor audio electronics don’t have their own colorations, albeit different). If... | |
| I don't want to beat a dead horse but I'm bugged. Would the issue be that you don't want accuracy? You want artifacts? I think that is the conclusion that can be drawn. Well, you're free to draw whatever conclusion that you would like. My pursuit and objective in home audio has not cha... | |
| I don't want to beat a dead horse but I'm bugged. @atmasphere I’ve no doubt that some of these measurements don’t occur because there isn’t the education out there to really understand the data! Plus- heaven forbid- you know how something sounds by looking at the measurements! If we reach ... | |
| I don't want to beat a dead horse but I'm bugged. @atmasphere Most amps fail them outright- and sound bright and harsh as a result, even though they ’measure well’ otherwise. The real problem isn’t that they measure well, its that the proper measurements aren’t made at all! The absolute trut... | |
| I don't want to beat a dead horse but I'm bugged. I think the implication is that some people like the sound of audible artifacts. I think I may have in the past. If you make them measure well you lose the artifacts. Oy vey! I guess I’m just not picking up the logic here. Oh well, nonetheless... | |
| Musetec (LKS) MH-DA005 DAC @sns Thank you. Charles |