Tube amp advice


I am thinking of trying out tube amps. My current amps are Kharmas (MP150). My speakers are Wilson Benesch and they are not an easy load (sensitivity is 86 db, impedence 6 ohms).

So, it would seem I will need a pretty perky tube amp. Some research has shown me that the EAR 890 and the Rogue M-150's are good values in my general price range, are well regarded, and are powerful enough to drive my speakers effectively.

Any thoughts on how these two amps compare? Any thoughts on other amps that might work well?

Thanks in advance.

--dan
dgaylin
Deltatrippers:

These days, a dip to 3.7 Ohms in the bass is almost considered moderate given how many speakers drop below 3 Ohms (and even down to 2 or below). To answer your question, the problem with most tube amps driving speakers featuring large impedance dips in the bass is that the amp can't deliver enough current to control the woofers - bass response is flabby and ill-defined.

A real-world example is all of the people out there trying to drive WattPuppies with $4,000 tube amps and getting Sony rack-system bass. Perhaps the best example is the CAT JL-1's mentioned in one of my previous posts, which were the original CAT monoblocks from the late 90's and only rated at 100 watts per channel - they were designed to drive the very inefficient MBL 101B, a speaker which also features wild impedance swings. The output transformer alone in these 192 lb. amps weighs 55 lbs. The bass performance of those amps sounds like a 500 watt Krell. Here is an interesting thread that discusses the CAT amps at length:

http://forum.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/fr.pl?aamps&1099200096&openfrom&1&4

My best hi-fi buddy ran the CAT JL-1 Limited Edition amps (the LE's were $50,000, featuring incredible parts quality) for a few years and they are indeed the king of the jungle. With big symphonic music, a high quality DSD recording, and high-output speakers, they will knock you through the listening room wall on peaks.

I do not know how the Triton would perform with low impedance speakers, but it uses KT88 output tubes, which are difficult to make, the result being frequent tube failure. With KT-88's, it's all the more important to have a knowledgeable, reputable supplier.
I have used speakers that are very close to yours(85db, 6ohms.) The Harbeth SHL5's and now the M40.1's. The Manley Snappers were killer good with the smaller SHL5, but IMO not enough juice for the bigger M40.1. The VTL's have worked out great for me with the M40.1. I would put both on your list if looking for nice, affordable and very good sounding tube amps.
Raquel:

Thanks for the link on the CAT amps...good info.
As for the KT88 output tubes, am I able to 'upgrade' to better, less prone to fail tubes. If not, guess I'll be stocking up.