SET the best?


Is SET amplification where we should all end up? I keep reading posts where people tell of their journeys from plenty power to micro power, and how amazing SET amplification is 45 set 211 set 845 set otl, and usually, ....with the right speaker. I have yet to read of anyone who has gone the other direction from SET, to High watt beast class A amps or others.
If your speakers can be driven by minimal wattage, is this the most realistic, natural sound we can achieve? versus say, 86db sensitive speakers and a 1000w amp?
Is the end result solely based on speaker pairing? circuit? tubes?

I am in the process of changing my direction in my search for realistic sound, just because, and wondering if this really is the best direction to be going.
From what I have been reading I think it may be.

What do we get with SET? What do we give up?

What's you favorite color?
hanaleimike
Thanks for the responses gentlemen.
I have owned many tube components, including 2 amplifiers ( ya WOW, I know ), and currently have a Cary slp-98 and an EAR 834P, I like tubes ( I haven't updated my system photos for a while )
The only reason I replaced my Cary sli-80 was that a McIntosh mc2500 was dropped in my lap and it sounded much better with my then speakers, the Spendor sp1/2e's.
I am currently trying to acquire a pair of Audio Note AN-e/spe's ( possibly the ones Jax2 was going to look at ?) Of course I will try them with my mac, but I don't see this pairing come up too often in my searches.
I am a fiddler of oc proportions. I love/hate rolling tubes, I move my speakers way more often then necessary ( the floor around my speakers looks like it has been shot with a shotgun ) , build my own stands, then change and rebuilt them, and have everything on some type of isolation thingy. I love fussing.
I don't often listen to loud stadium rock, or large orchestral music. I am looking to trick my brain in the most believable, extreme manor.
The an-e's go down to 20hz, so hopefully I won't be losing any bass. I have been considering the Transcendent set otl 1.5w amp currently for sale which I have been told has very deep and tight bass along with all the other desirable SET qualities.
Sounds like I am a candidate for a SET amp. Thanks for your time.
Yes, from your latest input, Hanaleimike, I would definitely recommend giving it a try. Should be a great match with AudioNote speakers. OTL is definitely is worth pursuing as well - it will give you very similar qualities, albeit different in both subtle, and not so subtle ways. All SET are not created equal either. Various tubes render different characters alltogether. Definitely look for substantial power supplies as this will make a significant difference in my experience. The one common theme I'd say is that the emphasis seems to always come out as midrangecentric and creating a holographic illusion (at best). The real flea-powered SET stuff really just focuses all its energies on midrange and is entirely a one-trick pony in my experience. But that trick is pretty damn good. Parallel SET is also worth consideration, as is push-pull triode. Those AU15's Grant is using are great amps. There's currently a pair of Wright Mono 10's that are quite similar, but not quite as good, at a bargain price here if you are looking in that ballpark. If you have greater funds, and or need better-looking casework, look elsewhere.
I went from 3.5 watt 2a3 SET monoblock amps made by George Wright and his very fine preamp plus a very nice set of IM Ben speakers made by Terry Cain. These were large folded horns, single driver speakers. Also paired the Cain & Cain sub with the Cain & Cain Ben's.

Liked the sound as I wanted a nice engaging and warm sound. The kind that just draws you into the music without a hint of glare, brightness, aggressiveness or listener fatigue. Got all that, but in the end I missed those times when I really wanted to hear and feel the impact of live music. This set up was awesome but lacked the scale and impact I also like. It was good for a year, but I had to find what I missed and not give up that wonderful warm and intimate sound.

My quest over the last 3 years was to do this. I have never liked most of today's hyper detailed speakers and wire. As an example today's Dali speakers (800's) can't hold a candle to the older and discontinued Dali Grand that can be found for $1500 or so used. Sure they soar higher and give more detail, but I wanted to leave the room in 10 minutes. Warmth, body and musicality is what I want with effortless power and dynamics when called for.

Found the same with wire. Most highly touted wire is to front row and detailed for me. Give me that cable that some call boring and just kind of "there".

For me, I found I did not have to settle for SET and the limitations it had for me. Others don't find my so called SET limitations limiting and I respect that for them.

I ended up with the following and have the best of both worlds. It has taken lots of time and effort. The key was getting the right speaker. The Silverline Bolero is a refined speaker that does not force you to "take notice of me I'm a loudspeaker". Great warmth and depth with glorious body. Stage is set back and they throw a huge stage. They can handle 1000 watts when called for and sound so effortless.

I like using a first rate tube pre and SS amps. I got both from TRL, Tube Research Labs. Amazingly musical pieces.

I desire wire that has warth and body. I like gold and copper in the IC's. I like Acrolink power cables as they are warm and full bodied. I like KCI Silkworm and Audio Horizons Dimension IC's.

With proper system matching and the right gear I think you can have the best of both worlds. Large scale, impact in your chest experience and wonderful, warm intimate music.

If you want to travel the SET route it is fun to be sure. The experience is something you really must go through to understand the SET thing for yourself. For some, unless they experience it they will always wonder. That is me!