Having recently purchased some NAT SE2SE amps which produce about 70 watts each to drive my Soundlab speakers has shown me that you MUST listen in your own system to achieve what you are trying to accomplish. The NAT SE2SE drive my Soundlabs with ease and authority and if I followed some "informed" opinions my new discovery wouldn't have been realized. I say any person that has doubts about "high powered" SET amps particularly NAT SE2SE driving their inefficient speakers should seek out these amps they are a revelation and are self-biasing.I have had my speakers for nine years and have never heard them produce music so glorious and awesomely real.I have no relationship with any dealers or manufacturers just a music lover. Try them out you will be amazed how your system will sound!!!!!
SET with inefficient speakers
i've always wanted to hear how an SET amp would sound at home, but my speakers aren't a good match in theory. they are dali euphonia M4's. floorstanding with two 6.5" woofs. 88db 4 ohm.
however, my listening room is smaller (10'X16'), i sit very close to the speakers, and i don't listen very loud (usually around 80 db level, per recent fooling around with the radio shack meter).
anyone have success with low powered tube amps under similar situation. there is no loacal dealer to do an in-home audition, and i don't want to hassle with different speakers. thanks....
however, my listening room is smaller (10'X16'), i sit very close to the speakers, and i don't listen very loud (usually around 80 db level, per recent fooling around with the radio shack meter).
anyone have success with low powered tube amps under similar situation. there is no loacal dealer to do an in-home audition, and i don't want to hassle with different speakers. thanks....
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Nice thing about audiogon, you can roll amps as easily as you can roll tubes... I'm having success with a tubed amp on my speakers, despite manu claims that they 'sound best' with SS amps. I have a Cary Rocket, definitely not SET, but the power output in UL mode is "only" 60w (which sounds better the triode @ 30w -- i think the speakers really like the increased power). This amp bested all the SS I had before, including some 200W Nuforce class D's. Speakers are rated @ 150W, and I'm glad I took the gamble. My point is, don't always believe the specs, or even the manufacturer! But it's still important to keep numbers in mind if you want any hope of synergy. |
Tholt Yeah, Audiogon has given me the chance to "find" nirvana in this maddness.I don't roll amps often. I was once on the high power kick but found that's not always the solution in trying to get that "match made in heaven" sound.Well,with the addition of the NAT SE2SE amps I think and hope this is the end of this journey searching for amps to power Soundlabs. |
Sonic, One of the biggest myths in audio is the impedance myth. Tube guys will talk about various tube till dawn, spouting opinions about what does or doesn't sound better, but audiophiles of all stripe typically ignore some of the measurables which are known to effect quality and equipment compatibility. Yep, by all means enjoy, but don't frustrate yourself by trying to get a SET shoe to fit a B&W foot. You may get your foot in there, but will be in pain after walking 5 minutes. If my references were a little opaque for you, try reading up on some of that kind of theory. Instead of turning compatibility into a guessing game, a little info going in will enable you to avoid some blind alleys, perhaps. Sorry for getting wound up. I think speaker designer/builders need to sit down for a long chat with amplifier guys. |
Magfan, you got that right... I usually show the speaker guys this http://www.atma-sphere.com/papers/paradigm_paper2.html -and then see if they have any questions. If the question about which paradigm group the speaker or amp fell into was marked on the specs, and if everyone knew what that meant, speaker/amp selection would be a lot easier! |
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