Building a Magnepan System, Please Help...


Hello everyone,

I am going to be shortly building an audio system, my first high end set up ever. I have decided on Magneplanar 1.7 speakers. The reason is that everything I have read seems to indicate that they are the best deal in audiophile speakers and the sound signature appeals to me. But since I have never built a high end sound sytem before, I need some help in picking components that match up well with the Magnepan speakers.

I am on a budget here. I want to get the best quality I can for the lowest price. I will even get the Magnepan speakers used if I can find them. I would like to be up and running for somewhere in the $3000 range but I can stretch that if need be.

I have all but decided on an Emotiva amp as they seem like a good deal and others have said they match up well and have enough power to drive these speakers.

So lets start out with saying that I bought a used but good condition Magneplanar 1.7 speakers for under $1500.

Then I bought an Emotiva XPA2 for around $700.

What else do I need to have a good startin system?

I have no intention of buying a subwoofer at this time. Maybe I'll add that later.

Do I need a pre amp to pair with the XPA2? I don't know too much about high end audio. What is the precise function of a pre amp and do I need one? Please recommend one for this set up.

As for the source, I would like to get into vinyl but I will hold off on that for the present. But bear in mind that I would like to be able to incorporate a record player into this system without much trouble in the future.

Instead of purchasing a high end CD player or SACD player, I though it would make sense to get a high end DAC for a computer source like a laptop so I can store my audio on my computer.

Can you recommend a good DAC that would be not too expensive but good enough to get the most out of the rest of the components I have selected?

So far I have, Magneplanar 1.7 speakers, Emotiva XPA2, maybe a pre amp and a DAC for running digital audio from a computer source. Not counting the cables to hook everything up, this is basically what I need right?

One final question. Should I also get a power conditioner to protect my components from surges and also to "clean" the power from my home outlets? I don't want to spend this much money and have my components damaged. If I should get one, please recommend one that is inexpensive.

Thanks for the help.
jrodefeld
Jrodefeld,

After reading your response, I understand what you are saying. I'm not surprised, though. I could have guessed to about 80-90% of what you wrote, almost word for word. Its not that I know so much, but that I've made many of the same mistakes myself, and have watched countless others do the same.

Right now, you are putting your system together. You haven't bought anything yet so its all in your head. You're trying to get an idea as to what all this is going to sound like when you are done. Knowing your situation from reading your 2 posts, there is only 1 fact that I can tell you. I guarantee it. And that is, the system that you've put together in your head is not going to sound like the system that ends up in your listening room. It can't. You have absolutely no reference to compare anything to. You may love it or hate it.

"Could you tell me why some people "hate" them? They sound quite appealing to me and I can't imagine not being happy with them."

That's exactly what I'm talking about. Using your imagination can be a very costly thing in audio. Its best to imagine as little as possible. lol. (I put the lol in there because people don't always get my humour.). To answer your question is difficult, though. I can tell you what I didn't like about my 1.7's, but it really wouldn't do you any good. But to give some perspective, think of it this way. There's only a small handful of companies that make ribbon speakers. Magnepan is the biggest, by far. All total, the market share for these speakers is very low. I guess maybe 1 or 2%; possibly less. That means that the vast majority of high end speaker owners go with other designs. Looking at it that way, you start to see why I highly recommend you demo the speakers first. Also, don't think I'm putting Magnepan down. I'm not. Magnepan owners are some of the most loyal customers in all of audio. It wouldn't surprise me at all if you end up loving them. I just say use caution.

If you really want to get into high end audio, you may want to going a different route to start off. Maybe just get an entry level receiver or integrated amp ($300-400) and pair it with a decent small speaker in the same price range. It doesn't have to be expensive gear. Use that system to learn. Get to know things like setup, imaging and all the rest of the qualities that you read about in reviews. From there, you will be able to make much better decisions as to where you want the system to go. If you want to be successful, there's no easy way. You are going to have to learn as much as you can from your own experiences.
I use:

WD Caviar Black HDD in a Thermaltake Max5G enclosure-->laptop-->Stello U3-->Benchmark DAC-1-->Crown XLS 2500-->Magnepan 1.7.
Jrode - You're getting a lot of questioning here so let me support you. You are going to LOVE your 1.7s - awesome speakers. They're going to shock you with how good they sound. The preamp I consider to be a more important piece of equipment than the amp. I would suggest a passive preamp but the XPA-2 isn't a good candidate for this so look into a tube preamp and buy USED, not to save money, but to allow you to sell it and try another unit if it doesn't please you. Same comment about the DAC - buy used. The variability between DACs I find to be much less. Budget $400-500 for a DAC and go with it.

And welcome to Maggie-world. You are going to love them.
Try finding a used Centrance DACmini, which has a nice 10W Class A amp built in for your Hifiman HE-400. Should be able to pick one up for less than $500 used.

I also second Jult52 that you'll be surprised at how nice the 1.7 sound.
Jrodfeld-I would look for a Yamaha MX-1 power amp. The matching CX-1 preamp is a solid sounding unit. For under $1k you cannot find a better sounding pre/power set up with near limitless power. It may take some time to find these older amps but it will be time well spent if sound quality is paramount!