Revel vs. Aerial vs. B&W


I am looking at upgrading my KEF Ref 3's and am considering Aerial's new 20T. Has anyone heard them? I have heard the B&W Nautilus 802's and think they are great - especially for the money. A friend of mine said I should consider the Revel Studios. I have never heard those. Feedback on them would be appreciated. I am using a Krell 3250/Lexicon MC12, FYI. Thanks!
acolcer
Are you guys kidding me.. You are arguing about Aerial VS Revel.. Give me a break. They are both really good and simply said, You like Brunette and I like Blonde.. Let's not start with Aerials Quality.. There is not a speaker for Sale in the US with as much cabinet development as Aerial has put in. Many years to design the 20T. The fact is the Revel's Salon's and the Aerial 9's and 20T's rock very well. They are both awesome and considering I sold both of you guys your speakers, I can mediate this.. In the same room with the same amps, I bet Ritteri would take the Salon's and Worldcat would take the Aerial's. That's what life is all about. You both got killer deals and just enjoy and stop this, It's bad for Both companies.

Now onto one more item of concern.
Ritteri - You seem to have connections for Aerial way above anyone including Mike Kelly who makes this stuff. Now why would you say this? Aerial's Margins are 10-15% less than Revel and it's alwyas been this way. That goes for every dealer in the US.. Don't say things about 50-60+ points when you don't know, This really hurts people's understanding of high value product. You also mention that you used to sell them ????? Are you Serious ?? If so , Please let me know how to buy them at 50 or 60 as you say and I will gladly pay you
10,000.00 Cash..

Let's all play nice..

I really value you guys very much and I really appreciate your business very much and you both know that I will do anything to help you if I can..

Happy Holidays
Craig
Craig: I will politely decline comment here. But be aware that "worldcat" has put evaluation on speakers I dont even think he ever physically heard in proper perspecitve(if at all even) in another thread, epsecially if he bought em from you(for obvious reasons). But to put it all in perspective, let the "children" rant about their high priced "toys". Ill end it on that note.
Avalon Ascendent for 8K, Avalon Opus for 14K - both are better than the Aerials or Revels. If you value accuracy and musicality, Avalon's are the way to go.
Ritteri, as Xtremefun pointed out, you've made some pretty outlandish comments in your postings above (and in other threads) that really bring into question your character.

To then respond to Craig (who seems to know you pretty well) with your 'politely decline to comment here', and then taking one more swipe at Worldcat, and 'end it on that note.' certainly does not help your case.

Might I suggest you either defend your previous statements or apologize for telling untruths?

-IMO
Stehno: Sure, its a garentee that Worldcat bought speakers and gear without truely auditioning them to begin with or even having and makes obvious comments that point towards that, and Craig doesnt keep any stock on hand for auditioning either. Worldcat basically bought what Craig has acess to(Theta,Cardas,Aerial are his main brands that he pushes)without actually ever even hearing how the gear sounds together first. Even Worldcats own statments show the fact that what he may have heard was done with completely foreign equipment with unknown room accoustics. Most true "audiophiles" I know of at least listen to gear in their own environment with their own equipment to see how the gear interacts with each other. When I picked up my Salons from Craig, I did so already having many Revel products on loan at one time or another and knew exactly what I wanted. My biggest question was whether or not I should blow my budget on a pair of stand alone Revel Salon's or a pair of Revel Studio's with a pair of B15 subs. As for speaker markup. I could very easily dig up some old dealer cost sheets from companies like Wilson Audio,Revel,Aerial,Vandersteen,ML etc scan them into my computer and post them here on Agon, but I would piss off alot of people up here in the NE area from which I still have alot of great contacts. Im not willing to jeopardize that and step on people's toes currently.

This thread was dead for over a month, so why are these responses poping up now Craig? You know Ive recommended alot of folks towards you. You treated me right, if you have common customers who want to debate or whatnot let em. Its not something important enough to make comments that you feel needed to be justified in all reality.

Anyway, Merry Xmas