Vinyl Cleaning Fluid for VPI RCM

BROOKS BERDAN (http://www.brooksberdanltd.com/) IN CALIFORNIA BOUGHT THE TORUMAT FORMULA AND WILL BE SELLING HOPEFULLY BY NEXT YEAR. I WON'T TOUCH ANYTHING WITH ALCOHOL IN IT. THE TORUMAT IS THE BEST. THE RRL IS HORRIBLE. IT KILLED ALL THE HIGHS AND MADE THE VINYL SOUND DULL.I RESEARCHED THE INGREDIENTS AND ONE OF THEM IS ALSO FOUND IN WOMEN'S HAND LOTION.I TRIED THE VINYL-ZYME AND IT ALSO MUFFLED THE SONIC QUALITY OF THE RECORD. THE TORUMAT HAS NO ALCOHOL AND IT LUBRICATES THE VINYL AND MAKES IT ANTI STATIC WHILE CLEANING IT.IT HAS NO SONIC SIGNATURE.

To each their own, Rackdoctor. I used to use Torumat until Albert Porter recommended RRL, which I found better in every way. (Must be system dependant ...)

Are you a customer of Brooks?

Jack

Nope, not a customer of Brooks. Acoustic Image. I don't think it is system dependent. I cleaned a couple of records with the RRL and all the air and upper extension sounded dull and muffled. I returned it to Elliot at Acoustic Image and told him my experinece. A couple of months later he told me that he too noticed the same thing. Anyway, that's my experience.

Rackdoctor, you might want to buy a new keyboard, your caps lock key seems to be stuck on! My ears hurt from all the shouting.

Rackdoctor, the experience of you and Elliot would seem to be extremely rare anomalies in a very large sea of folks who feel the exact opposite. Given that the RRL fluids are found by most everyone to be the purest of anything they’ve tried or seen, reports of “deadening the highs” are very hard to imagine. Something must be amiss in your application – or something. As to the claim of “hand lotion ingredients”, I think you should provide some solid proof in evidence. “I researched it” proves nothing to me. Where? When? How? I had discussions with the guy who developed the RRL fluids (Brian Weitzle) and, based on his sincerity and detailed discussions of the research and development process that went into making the stuff in the first place, I’d be nearly willing to wager my system that “hand lotion ingredients” are not part of the formula. Maybe you have it confused with another product which actually smells a bit of hand lotion. If you can actually substantiate what you say about the RRL fluids, I’d be all ears. If not, it is a very irresponsible statement which should be retracted.